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RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BigLion39 - 03-03-2024
(03-01-2024, 04:53 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: In the meantime, Pavarotti has disappeared for unknown reasons (there were so many human-wildlife conflicts as well at the time, which occured at least 2 of the Marsh lionesses death Red and Lispy unfortunately so this could have been the root cause in his case as well). Thus from late 2000's and early 2010's only Romeo and Clawed were present as dominant force of the pride and when the Musketeers took over.
Pavarotti also knows as Red disappeared early on and wasn't a big part of them when they finally took the Marsh from N1. Im not sure exactly when Matejo was sired but IMHO he looks almost exactly like Red. Halftail also looks like Matejo and Red. Halftail and Matejo have Notch blood as Matejo Mom is Joy, daughter or granddaughter of N1.
There's an awesome video of 2/4 Ooloololo males chasing a young male, they find him in a ravine next to a river. He gets away then but im not sure who he was and if he ever made it to adult. Clawed/Romeo/Red sired great strong, agressive males! Great genes. Kutiti is also grandson of old Marsh males Clawed/Romeo/Red and sired in Prunagat Pride.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Mwk85 - 03-11-2024
Oloimina and Oloshipa out on patrol. They were around the Talek river area which was Fig Tree Pride territory if my understanding is correct.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Spalea - 03-12-2024
Video dated from the 12th March 2024.
" The Rongai lion pride with big male Lorkulup chase some buffalo bulls and manage to bring down one of them "
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Lipstick2 - 03-14-2024
TBT a few sightings of late legend Lipstick from the 4'km coalition from mid 2010's very likely. Funny to see as his lioness was trying to approach her pride mates but Lipstick deterred and discouraged almost everybody from her space as she was in fire/estrus that's for sure.
Nevertheless, these old legends still had the chance to at least reach their great old age, such as these 4'km males, the Notches, Boxernose, the Musketeers and obviously Lolparpit&Olbarnoti even had reached it. So now? Seems that everything is a very bad process and going into deterioration.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BigLion39 - 03-14-2024
(03-14-2024, 01:53 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: Nevertheless, these old legends still had the chance to at least reach their great old age, such as these 4'km males, the Notches, Boxernose, the Musketeers and obviously Lolparpit&Olbarnoti even had reached it. So now? Seems that everything is a very bad process and going into deterioration.
Yeah, very dis-heartening the situation in Massai owned land and also Northern Kruger. Theres still hope in some conservancy areas where its better managed like the Triangle, Mara North, Lemek, Naboisho, Ol'Kinyei. The 4 Inselberg males can make old age if they stay out of the sights of other males.
Lipstick and Blackie, one of the most gorgeous lions ever! Legends!
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - LyonLover - 03-16-2024
Quote:It appears that Ntui, one of the four Mara North Boys that took control over Lemek Pride, is confirmed to have been killed in a fight with the Sankai Boys.
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RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - kobe8jf1234 - 03-16-2024
(03-16-2024, 07:58 PM)LyonLover Wrote:Quote:It appears that Ntui, one of the four Mara North Boys that took control over Lemek Pride, is confirmed to have been killed in a fight with the Sankai Boys.
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was he the brother that was injured not seen with other 3 brother ?
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Lipstick2 - 03-17-2024
(02-24-2024, 05:46 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: While from the central areas the terrible news has come in series (the death of Olobor, disappearance of Nyekundo and some appalling matchete's cuts on Mdogo's body) life doesn't stop in the north either, but here at least not because of HWC...And here is the result of this...
The 3 big Sankai Boys who were expelled from Lemek Conservancy by the 4 Mara North Males 1,5 year ago then tried to live a quite restrained life in the sparsely populated Enonkishu and Olchoro Oiruwa Conservancy, now probably decided to demand back Lemek as their own from the MN males after they collected some confidence and now are in their absolute prime with their 7 years. As MN males will be 10 this year, their age probably starts to show on them slowly, especially with one of them still wasn't confirmed detected for months now so this could be a harsh rechallenge to them against these 3 larger, younger and now stronger males.
These current sightings show the big brothers intruding to Lemek and make known their presence for sure.
Seenka Kini and Lemurt started their journey down to Lemek
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Right before started to roaring to show their presence the 3 majestic boys carefully looked around and surveyed the terrain firstly
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Credits thanks to Raphael Rotiken
Then they're a bit scattered and remarkably walking and running all around their rivals territory
https://fb.watch/qoXr-CB00V/
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Interesting to see what would be the outcome of the potential clash between these two great coalitions.
It was confirmed that 1/4 ex-Iseketa/ex-Offbeat/Mara North Male Ntui was killed by these 3 Sankai Boys Seenka, Kini and Lemurt exactly in their Lemek territory.
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(By Nick SoitaIt is said that it happened on Wendesday late evening and on the next morning the 3 Sankai boys were seen moving away from the area. Kini had some facial scratches. Ntui was beaten up badly and the vets were to come yesterday but they couldn't find him. Assuming that the Sankai Boys were back to finished him off on Thursday night as a lot of commotion was heard at the time.
So, the once 4 Mara North Males' coalition was down to 2 males as Saruni also wasn't seen since months now...Probably he was killed by these 3 as well. Only Osidai and Oronkai still standing.
At the same time, from the other side the 3 Sankai boys took a serious revenge on them. By now they executed 2 of them after they also lost 2 of their brothers - Merrinyo and Lerai - probably by the hand of their 4 older rivals in the last 2 years. So they've collected so much confidence for now to took revenge on them.
It is also a good question what will happen to the Lemek pride and Conservancy in the near future, as they have cubs from the MN males and i doubt the last 2 aging brothers (they'll be 10 this year) could stand against these 3 strong, vengeful and slightly younger brothers now.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Lipstick2 - 03-17-2024
(03-16-2024, 08:28 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: was he the brother that was injured not seen with other 3 brother ?No, that was Saruni who wasn't seen for months and nor since. But their fate could be common as both was probably killed by these boys. Only Osidai and Oronkai the last two remaining brothers now.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Lipstick2 - 03-17-2024
Now it is said, the boys today morning left Lemek, but they didn't return to Naretoi or Olchoro, rather they encroached farther into Mara North Conservancy which is ruled mainly by the 4 Enkoyonai boys.
So unclear what is their plan, but probably they decided to begin some advantures right now... Either way, now this is a more risky way as Enkoyonai boys are also ruthless warriors - they killed Logol and Jesse as well - very exciting to see how all of this will turn.
Edit: in the video is Seenka and Lemurt, Kini can not be seen, but he was there too
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Robot00 - 03-17-2024
Correct me if im wrong but aren't all these boys sons of lolparpit and olbarnoti? Mara north boys, sankai boys and enkoyonai boys they're all half brothers to my knowledge.
If true, it is amazing how a TWO males coalition left such a legacy. It's unbelievable these two overcame such odds to have so many mature sons including the six pack boys. Probably others but im not sure who else
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Lipstick2 - 03-17-2024
(03-17-2024, 06:00 AM)Robot00 Wrote: Correct me if im wrong but aren't all these boys sons of lolparpit and olbarnoti? Mara north boys, sankai boys and enkoyonai boys they're all half brothers to my knowledge.No, Sankai boys have nothing to do with L&O on fathers lineage. They're sons of late Croton Island male Olerai, who was Sankai pride male between 2016 and 2019, along with his half-brother/coalition partner Olekiti. But both Mara North and Enkoyonai coalitions are indeed L&O's descendants. The Bilashakas and Logol were also their offsprings.
You can see none of L&O's sons have such thick and large manes, these 3 Sankai boys are far the most impressive specimens through the Mara currently, cause Olerai was a similarly huge male.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BigLion39 - 03-20-2024
I wonder where Osidai and Oronkai were not th hear the commotion for 2 days in their own territory? MNC Boys reigned violently for about 9 years without loosing a brother which is a feat all in itself. Unfortunately they never learned that sticking together is best as 2 brothers Saruni and Ntui were caught alone last summer by Sankai Boys and they recovered, ultimately to be again caught and killed. Who knows what happened to Saruni? Hopefully Osidai/Oronkai can keep Lemek and raise the rest of their offspring. They have already 2/3 Serian sub adults dispersed and they have already killed a pride male. They have Olonyek (don't know how to spell it) who leads his 6 other half brothers of Acatia Pride and then they left a bunch of young lionesses legacy.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Lipstick2 - 03-20-2024
(03-20-2024, 11:43 AM)BigLion39 Wrote: Hopefully Osidai/Oronkai can keep Lemek and raise the rest of their offspring.If Sankai boys aim their former owned territory Lemek Conservancy and pride back, the remaining 2 Mara North Males already wouldn't be able to do anything about it, i think. Now they're too less for that and slowly getting old while their 3 opponents have just arrived into their absolut prime and most probably picked up so much confidence recently.
Btw how do you think and say about that they attempt(ed) to move further south into Mara North Conservancy to the 4 Enkoyonai brothers' territory? Would it be just a bold move from them or are they exactly targeting to get more lands for themselves along with their flowing increased self-confidence?
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Robot00 - 03-20-2024
How come im seeing the enkoyonai boys being referred to as four? Is there no longer five enkoyonai boys? I don't remember if ive asked this before but when did the original six enkoyonai boys lose their 2nd brother? I know the 1st lost was during nomadic but when was the 2nd lost?