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RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Fredymrt - 02-17-2017
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RE: The mighty Mapogos - HouseOfLions - 02-17-2017
(02-16-2017, 01:50 PM)fursan syed Wrote:(02-09-2017, 09:09 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Talking about it, who are the fathers of Sizanani (Thanda Impi male)?
I read that he's survivor of the Mapogos takeover.
Father of Thanda impi Males are blondie male lion from Nkuhumas (killed by Mapogos)
Fursan, did you see that my posts were deleted from the manginjis page. I didn't target anyone or insult anyone, I just told Tshokowane that them eating their brother is the utmost sign of disgrace and humiliation.
And I also called him out on spreading misinformation. He quoted someone saying that hip scar "lived by the sword and died by the sword" but in fact, he didn't die by the swords, he died of old age!
I was not hating on anybody or anything, I was just speaking my opinions on the matter, so why did my posts get deleted?
RE: The mighty Mapogos - fursan syed - 02-17-2017
@HouseOfLions i know bro. my post is also deleted with you . i also believed hip scar doesn't died by sword. what happens to him after his death is a disgrace. his own brothers and coalition partners feed on him. dragging his body
RE: The mighty Mapogos - HouseOfLions - 02-17-2017
(02-17-2017, 03:31 PM)fursan syed Wrote: @HouseOfLions i know bro. my post is also deleted with you . i also believed hip scar doesn't died by sword. what happens to him after his death is a disgrace. his own brothers and coalition partners feed on him. dragging his body
Seems like people don't understand what "die by the sword" means!
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Lionpower - 02-17-2017
(02-16-2017, 12:49 PM)Gamiz Wrote: Rob says: "Judging by the last time we saw his tracks and the vulture and hyena activity it seems he died sometime in the last 36 - 48 hours. Tracks suggest that the three remaining Majingilanes have also dragged his carcass around during the early hours of yesterday morning, there is indication that they may have actually fed on the carcass but it is hard to determine due to the combined scavenger activity there."
Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they dragged the carcass around to "protect" Hipscar from scavengers. If they really fed on him, it's "tasteless" for sure. I know they are lions but they knew who he was.
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 02-17-2017
(02-17-2017, 04:24 PM)Lionpower Wrote: I know they are lions but they knew who he was.
Once some time has passed, no I don't think so.
For the same reason, mothers eat their dead offsprings.Does this mean theydidn't care about their son? No.
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Once it's dead, it's dead, and leaving it would be throwing away a free resource.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - Tshokwane - 02-17-2017
(02-17-2017, 01:32 PM)HouseOfLions Wrote: I was not hating on anybody or anything, I was just speaking my opinions on the matter, so why did my posts get deleted?
It's quite simple. You're complaining like a girl about misinformation, while misinforming yourself.
Further, you're insulting the rest of the coalition, even when I'm clearly saying that you stop it.
I don't really care what you think of this matter. Simply refrain from saying it ouloud, because I don't like you insulting them.
The same goes for you @
For example:
Quote:I just told Tshokowane that them eating their brother is the utmost sign of disgrace and humiliation.
This is your own distorted, antropomorphic opinion, purposely forgetting lions are that, lions.
Quote:And I also called him out on spreading misinformation. He quoted someone saying that hip scar "lived by the sword and died by the sword" but in fact, he didn't die by the swords, he died of old age!
Irrelevant.
You didn't call anyone out, and that wasn't "misinformation".
It was simply a phrase by someone that follows them and feels that way about lions, Nowhere was it said that he was killed in a fight.
Both of your "opinions" are clearly biased to one side, and even influentiated by the antromorphic imprint you try to create on it.
Lions are lions, not people. Now, for the sake of the thread, let's just keep it at that.
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - leocrest - 02-17-2017
Thank you, Tshokwane, those two posters have lost touch with reality.
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Sideliner - 02-17-2017
https://www.facebook.com/Majingilane.Lions/photos/a.1272395782791470.1073741826.131511740213219/1427473377283709/?type=3&theater
Ranger paying tribute to Hipscar -
He was a clever lion and a strategist - that is why he survived much longer than most people expected despite his handicap.
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - vinodkumarn - 02-17-2017
Through The Guide's Eye.....
How the Hip Scar male was found:
It was raining the morning we found him for the last time. As we descended into a drainage line, we spotted a large number of vultures in dead trees, and of course Martin and I went to investigate. It was near to where the Hip Scar male was last seen, so Martin said to me that it was probably him that had attracted them. We knew it was either that, or he had surprised us once again and killed a buffalo. We hoped for the latter.
As we were getting far from the guests, I had to return to the vehicle while Martin continued alone and it wasn't long before he radioed to tell me he had found the Hip Scar male, and that he had been dead for a few days.
When we arrived, we came upon a difficult scene, which we felt we should see as it is as much part of nature as its beauty. He lay in long grass, completely intact, with no spinal spinal damage or any evidence of a cause of death other than just dying alone where he lay. This was verified by the vets we took there later.
What was interesting is that the other three Majingilane males seem to have moved past there two nights before we found him. We think this because we saw them the night of the 14th of February, and tracked them right past this area the next morning, and their tracks went too close to him for them not to have found him.
There was evidence that his body had been moved about a hundred yards or so, and we think it could only have been his brothers who did this. Of course, it could have been hyenas, but we think not. What went on that night will be a secret that the bush will guard closely forever.
It was difficult for us to find him like that, but nature has taken its course and he is not struggling anymore.
To reproduce in the wild is to win the game, and the Majingilane males have done so emphatically by dominating a highly contested area for over half a decade. He was an integral part of this. His brothers are still strong, and there is a lot left in them yet, so I don't believe this is the beginning of the end for the Majingilane males. Long may we still hear them roaring in the beloved African night.
Goodbye to the Hip Scar male, in whose burning eyes the fire has finally gone out.
Blaine Moolman, Guide
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Spalea - 02-18-2017
@vinodkumarn :
About #1001: deeply moving account ! 3 brother lions would have moved the hipscar's (their fourth brother) body ? This is upsetting ! The lions, like elephants, would have the notion of the death... ? They would displace his body in order to protect it... Unbelievable. OK the bounds between the 4 brothers-in-arms were very strong, but here, this behaviour outshines all I could imagine.
Notion of the death by the lions... I never read anything like this.
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - vinodkumarn - 02-18-2017
(02-18-2017, 12:52 AM)Spalea Wrote: @vinodkumarn :
About #1001: deeply moving account ! 3 brother lions would have moved the hipscar's (their fourth brother) body ? This is upsetting ! The lions, like elephants, would have the notion of the death... ? They would displace his body in order to protect it... Unbelievable. OK the bounds between the 4 brothers-in-arms were very strong, but here, this behaviour outshines all I could imagine.
Notion of the death by the lions... I never read anything like this.
@Spalea I think once their brother is no more alive, they identify the Carcass as any other Carcass. Its their instinct
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 02-18-2017
(02-18-2017, 12:52 AM)Spalea Wrote: The lions, like elephants, would have the notion of the death... ? They would displace his body in order to protect it...
Quote:Notion of the death by the lions... I never read anything like this.
Personally, I don't think it's the case, unless they found him before dying and they wanted to stay with him.
That aside, I think it may be more likely what Rob the ranger said, simply because it's the natural outcome of such a scenario.
With him still alive but dying, they would have known him, but with him already dead a day, I'm not so sure.
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - Spalea - 02-18-2017
(02-18-2017, 01:14 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:(02-18-2017, 12:52 AM)Spalea Wrote: The lions, like elephants, would have the notion of the death... ? They would displace his body in order to protect it...
Quote:Notion of the death by the lions... I never read anything like this.
Personally, I don't think it's the case, unless they found him before dying and they wanted to stay with him.
That aside, I think it may be more likely what Rob the ranger said, simply because it's the natural outcome of such a scenario.
With him still alive but dying, they would have known him, but with him already dead a day, I'm not so sure.
OK, I am going to stick to your interpretation...
RE: History most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions - sik94 - 02-18-2017
To be honest I am a little relieved that hip-scar went out this way. Would have been terrible if he was caught alone by another coalition and ripped apart unable to run away or fight. He had a full life and was an integral part of probably the most successful coalition in sabi sands in terms of their 7 year and still continuing tenure and a very long list of cubs fathered.
And to those claiming its disgusting or in bad taste that the other 3 brothers might have fed on him, step out of your narrow mindedness. The fact is that it's all speculation. There was no actual evidence that it happened. So stop assuming things to suit your bias and to put your own favorite coalition on a pedestal, its very childish.
Let's be honest, cannibalism is part of lion behavior, its not as rare or out of the ordinary as everyone thinks it is. So even if it did happen, its not because they are ungraceful or bad lions, it happened because its part of lion behavior.
RIP.