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Ursus arctos piscator - brotherbear - 02-23-2015
What is your opinion of Ursus arctos piscator ? ~~http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergman%27s_bear The Bergman's bear (Ursus arctos piscator) is an alleged and probably extinct subspecies of the brown bear that lived in the Kamchatka Peninsula. The bear was identified and named by Swedish zoologist Sten Bergman in 1920.Bergman determined that the bear was a separate subspecies after examining a hide (which had fur very different from other local bears) and series of footprints, measuring 14.5 x 10 inches, which he judged to be much larger than other bears on Kamchatka.Some think that the Cold War may have helped the population to recover because the Soviet Military blocked access to the area in that time.Interest in the bear was revitalized in the 1960s. Hunter Rodion Sivolobov reported claims by Kamchatka natives of an unusually large bear they called either the Irkuiem (roughly meaning "trousers pulled down" due to the appearance of the bear's hind legs), or the "God bear" due to its large size.Based on Sivobolov's description, biologist N.K. Vereshchagin suggested that the God bear might be a relict Arctodus simus, a massive extinct bear. This idea was coolly received by the scientific community; Arctodus has never been found outside the Americas, and more importantly, it belonged to the Tremarctinae which differ considerably in appearance from the "typical" bears (Ursinae). In particular, Arctodus had relatively long and slender legs which does not agree with the "trousers pulled down" moniker.
RE: Ursus arctos piscator - tigerluver - 03-08-2015
The short-faced bear possibility is within the realm of current knowledge, impossible. A large bear population would make more sense. Although, I am a bit confused by the extinction allegation, the following paper stated Kamchatka has numerous brown bears:
http://www.bearbiology.com/fileadmin/tpl/Downloads/URSUS/Vol_9/Revenko_Vol_9.pdf
Mutation in coat color to explain some odd sightings. I am sure, like in other species, occasionally giants comparable to prehistoric counterparts would occur.
RE: Ursus arctos piscator - brotherbear - 02-28-2017
(03-08-2015, 10:39 AM)tigerluver Wrote: The short-faced bear possibility is within the realm of current knowledge, impossible. A large bear population would make more sense. Although, I am a bit confused by the extinction allegation, the following paper stated Kamchatka has numerous brown bears:
http://www.bearbiology.com/fileadmin/tpl/Downloads/URSUS/Vol_9/Revenko_Vol_9.pdf
Mutation in coat color to explain some odd sightings. I am sure, like in other species, occasionally giants comparable to prehistoric counterparts would occur.
Well, this is something that I would categorize as a mythical monster like the various Bigfoot phantom-creatures.
http://allcryptid.wikia.com/wiki/Bergman_Bear