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RE: Tiger Predation - Apex Titan - 09-21-2022
Tiger cubs stalking a tapir:
RE: Tiger Predation - Ashutosh - 09-29-2022
A tiger entered an enclosure in Chitwan where gharials are bred for conservation and killed 3 of the crocodilians. Apparently, it observed them for sometime and then killed 3 of them. Before the authorities got there, it had already eaten one of them and fled on being interrupted.
https://news.mongabay.com/2022/09/in-nepal-endangered-tiger-kills-critically-endangered-gharial-what-does-it-mean/amp/
A tiger kills and eats a leopard in Valmiki tiger reserve. Apparently, this is 3rd such instance this year.
https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/in-focus/leopard-carcass-found-in-valmiki-tiger-reserve-in-bihar-article-93861151/amp
RE: Tiger Predation - Bitishannah - 10-01-2022
Tiger choking sambar
RE: Tiger Predation - Pckts - 10-11-2022
Umarpani with his Gaur Kill back in the day
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RE: Tiger Predation - Apex Titan - 10-16-2022
Tiger killed a wild bull buffalo (Kaziranga):
RE: Tiger Predation - Apex Titan - 10-25-2022
Huge tusks of a fully-grown, mature male wild boar that was killed and eaten by a Sumatran tiger:
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20:56 mark in the video:
RE: Tiger Predation - Apex Titan - 10-26-2022
"Camera trap photograph of a tiger eating an elephant. The elephant was killed by this tiger on 27-03-2013 early morning."
(A 7 year old male tusker elephant was killed, the tigress fed on this kill for almost 8 days) This looks like a tigress:
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*This image is copyright of its original author
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These photos can be seen on the walls in the information center of Silent Valley National Park:
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RE: Tiger Predation - bigcatlover - 10-27-2022
(10-26-2022, 06:39 PM)Apex Titan Wrote: "Camera trap photograph of a tiger eating an elephant. The elephant was killed by this tiger on 27-03-2013 early morning."
(A 7 year old male tusker elephant was killed, the tigress fed on this kill for almost 8 days) This looks like a tigress:
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
These photos can be seen on the walls in the information center of Silent Valley National Park:
*This image is copyright of its original author
No doubt an impressive feat but the elephant seems to be only 3 times the size of the tiger visually ( i am no expert) but it looks like a calf or maybe there are pgmy asiatic elephants in kerala?
RE: Tiger Predation - LonePredator - 10-27-2022
(10-27-2022, 03:43 PM)bigcatlover Wrote:(10-26-2022, 06:39 PM)Apex Titan Wrote: "Camera trap photograph of a tiger eating an elephant. The elephant was killed by this tiger on 27-03-2013 early morning."
(A 7 year old male tusker elephant was killed, the tigress fed on this kill for almost 8 days) This looks like a tigress:
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
These photos can be seen on the walls in the information center of Silent Valley National Park:
*This image is copyright of its original author
No doubt an impressive feat but the elephant seems to be only 3 times the size of the tiger visually ( i am no expert) but it looks like a calf or maybe there are pgmy asiatic elephants in kerala?
Did you read the initial comment from @Apex Titan? It’s clearly stated that it is a 7 year old tusker. They reach adulthood between 12-15.
A 7 year old Tusker should be around 2000kg and an average male Bengal Tiger is 200-250kg which means the elephant is 8-10 times the size of an average male Bengal Tiger.
RE: Tiger Predation - Apex Titan - 10-27-2022
(10-27-2022, 03:43 PM)bigcatlover Wrote:(10-26-2022, 06:39 PM)Apex Titan Wrote: "Camera trap photograph of a tiger eating an elephant. The elephant was killed by this tiger on 27-03-2013 early morning."
(A 7 year old male tusker elephant was killed, the tigress fed on this kill for almost 8 days) This looks like a tigress:
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
These photos can be seen on the walls in the information center of Silent Valley National Park:
*This image is copyright of its original author
No doubt an impressive feat but the elephant seems to be only 3 times the size of the tiger visually ( i am no expert) but it looks like a calf or maybe there are pgmy asiatic elephants in kerala?
The elephant was a juvenile tusker around 6.5 - 7 years old.
Here's the report referring to the account (pictures) I posted:
"Tigers have hunted down two elephants, including a young one, last month in Kerala forests."
"The killing of the young elephant at Sairandhri in the Silent Valley National Park has caught the wildlife experts by surprise as tigers are known to target mostly cubs. The nearly seven-year-old tusker was hunted down by the tiger near the trek path that runs through the forest area."
"The ill-fated elephant had charged at two forest officials inside the forest on the eve of its death. A few researchers and forest officials had reported hearing loud cries of the animal and roaring of the tiger in early hours of March 27. The body of the animal was found on the trek path the next morning, said M. Joshil, Assistant Wildlife Warden of the park."
"Signs of battle between the two animals were visible at the site where the carcass was found. Pug marks of the tiger were also spotted at the site. The elephant had suffered big wounds on the hind limbs indicating that it was attacked from behind, he said."
https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/tigers-hunt-down-calf-young-elephant/article4579517.ece
Here's another account of a tiger that killed a young elephant:
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"We managed to get a trip into the forest in the evening and were very lucky to see an Elephant carcass. We were told that a Tiger had killed the elephant, which was an adolescent and not a fully grown one. But how the Tiger managed to bring it down was a surprise and we couldn't understand. Normally elephants are in groups and how did the tiger manage this!!!!"...
"We could see tiger pugmarks all around the carcass. The belly was open and all intestines were out, typical of a tiger kill, as they first remove the intestines before they gorge on the meat. A part of its trunk was bitten off."..
http://malinisri.blogspot.com/
RE: Tiger Predation - Nyers - 11-29-2022
Amur tiger killed a brown bear in a nature reserve in the Khabarovsk Territory
During a raid in the southern region of the Bolshekhekhtsirsky Reserve (Khabarovsk Territory), on the territory of the buffer zone, inspectors discovered a fight between two taiga giants - the Amur tiger and the brown bear.
Not having time to hibernate, the bear of impressive size (the width of the callus of the front paw is 18 cm) became the prey of the striped owner of the taiga.
“Judging by the traces, the fight here turned out to be serious. The animals fought for a long time, but the tiger still won. It was probably Odyr, a male that most often lives in this area of the reserve and visits the tigress Zlata, whose favorite habitat is the northern part of our reserve. However, the tiger itself was not hurt. Such a conclusion can be drawn due to the lack of bloody stains at the place of his lying down - that is, rest, which we found next to the half-eaten bear carcass. Probably, the tiger will return here later to continue eating for a few more days,” said Yury Kya, Chief Engineer for Forest Protection and Forestry Activities of the Bolshekhekhtsirsky Reserve.
Meanwhile, in the southern part of the reserve, the snow cover is now much higher than in the northern part: 30 cm versus 10 cm. And, most likely, the bears will still hibernate from day to day.
According to security guards of the Bolshekhekhtsirsky Reserve, this summer Amur tigers attacked bears more than once, including Himalayan ones. Conducting raid activities, inspectors repeatedly found the remains of Himalayan bears and tiger excrement, in which bear claws were found. According to Yuri Kya, most often, these were one-year-old individuals, that is, “underyearlings”. The tiger confidently defeats the Himalayan bear until the age of three.
http://www.zapovedamur.ru/news/kse
remains of bear
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video and images from the place where the fight between the tiger and the bear took place, as well as footage with the remains of the bear and the resting place of the tiger.
https://www.hab.kp.ru/daily/27477/4684605/?fromrss=582
https://vk.com/zapovedamur?w=wall-104014369_1614
some ccomments from video:
Fight began next to the forest at the index sign, which can be seen at the beginning of the video. Size of tiger heel about 10 cm.
Pay attention on information about size of palmar callus:
Quote:Bears often use forest paths, clearings, embankments, forest edges, river banks for movement, and here their tracks are usually clear, while the tracks of the front paws are well imprinted, because their feet are much smaller than the hind ones.
Therefore, when registering a bear, state inspectors measure the width and length of the palmar callus (calluses of the front paw - “palm”). A palmar callus impression is the least variable imprint in terms of its parameters, regardless of the mode of movement and the quality of the substrate.
https://www.doopt.ru/?id=3734
and compare to this data:
according to Pazhetnov about european brown bears:
Quote:A palmar callus with a width of more than 12 cm belongs to a really large bear, weighing from 150 kg and above. It is almost always male. During the five-year period of work in the Pechoro-Ilychsky Reserve, the scientist has never seen a clear imprint, the width of the anterior callus of which would exceed 16 cm. But this does not mean that there are no specimens with a larger footprint in Komi. It's just rare.
https://komiinform.ru/news/184074/
and now let's compare this information with data on one of the largest bears in Eurasia from Kamchatka:
Female brown bears 7 yo and older
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body mass: average 174,9 kg, min 120kg, max 250kg.
body length: average 194,5 cm, min 171,5 cm, max 212 cm.
palmar callus width: average 13.9 cm, min 13 cm, max 14,5 cm
Male brown bears 7 yo and older
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body mass: average 268,7 kg, min 180 kg, max 410 kg.
body length: average 216,7 cm, min 200 cm, max 249 cm.
palmar callus width: average 18.1 cm, min 17 cm, max 19 cm
MAIN MORPHOMETRIC CHARACTERISTICS OF BROWN BEARS IN KAMCHATKA AND SAKHALIN ( I.V. Seryodkin, J. Paczkowski, W.B. Leacock, V.V. Zhakov, A.P. Nikanorov, D.V. Lisitsyn )
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321047341_MAIN_MORPHOMETRIC_CHARACTERISTICS_OF_BROWN_BEARS_IN_KAMCHATKA_AND_SAKHALIN
it looks like the tiger Odyr made a successful attempt to hunt a male brown bear
if you have no acces to group i can share videofile
RE: Tiger Predation - juhu2010 - 12-03-2022
RE: Tiger Predation - L-954 - 12-09-2022
(11-29-2022, 07:09 PM)Nyers Wrote: Amur tiger killed a brown bear in a nature reserve in the Khabarovsk Territorywow this is pretty interesting
During a raid in the southern region of the Bolshekhekhtsirsky Reserve (Khabarovsk Territory), on the territory of the buffer zone, inspectors discovered a fight between two taiga giants - the Amur tiger and the brown bear.
Not having time to hibernate, the bear of impressive size (the width of the callus of the front paw is 18 cm) became the prey of the striped owner of the taiga.
“Judging by the traces, the fight here turned out to be serious. The animals fought for a long time, but the tiger still won. It was probably Odyr, a male that most often lives in this area of the reserve and visits the tigress Zlata, whose favorite habitat is the northern part of our reserve. However, the tiger itself was not hurt. Such a conclusion can be drawn due to the lack of bloody stains at the place of his lying down - that is, rest, which we found next to the half-eaten bear carcass. Probably, the tiger will return here later to continue eating for a few more days,” said Yury Kya, Chief Engineer for Forest Protection and Forestry Activities of the Bolshekhekhtsirsky Reserve.
Meanwhile, in the southern part of the reserve, the snow cover is now much higher than in the northern part: 30 cm versus 10 cm. And, most likely, the bears will still hibernate from day to day.
According to security guards of the Bolshekhekhtsirsky Reserve, this summer Amur tigers attacked bears more than once, including Himalayan ones. Conducting raid activities, inspectors repeatedly found the remains of Himalayan bears and tiger excrement, in which bear claws were found. According to Yuri Kya, most often, these were one-year-old individuals, that is, “underyearlings”. The tiger confidently defeats the Himalayan bear until the age of three.
http://www.zapovedamur.ru/news/kse
remains of bear
video and images from the place where the fight between the tiger and the bear took place, as well as footage with the remains of the bear and the resting place of the tiger.
https://www.hab.kp.ru/daily/27477/4684605/?fromrss=582
https://vk.com/zapovedamur?w=wall-104014369_1614
some ccomments from video:
Fight began next to the forest at the index sign, which can be seen at the beginning of the video. Size of tiger heel about 10 cm.
Pay attention on information about size of palmar callus:
Quote:Bears often use forest paths, clearings, embankments, forest edges, river banks for movement, and here their tracks are usually clear, while the tracks of the front paws are well imprinted, because their feet are much smaller than the hind ones.
Therefore, when registering a bear, state inspectors measure the width and length of the palmar callus (calluses of the front paw - “palm”). A palmar callus impression is the least variable imprint in terms of its parameters, regardless of the mode of movement and the quality of the substrate.
https://www.doopt.ru/?id=3734
and compare to this data:
according to Pazhetnov about european brown bears:
Quote:A palmar callus with a width of more than 12 cm belongs to a really large bear, weighing from 150 kg and above. It is almost always male. During the five-year period of work in the Pechoro-Ilychsky Reserve, the scientist has never seen a clear imprint, the width of the anterior callus of which would exceed 16 cm. But this does not mean that there are no specimens with a larger footprint in Komi. It's just rare.
https://komiinform.ru/news/184074/
and now let's compare this information with data on one of the largest bears in Eurasia from Kamchatka:
Female brown bears 7 yo and older
body mass: average 174,9 kg, min 120kg, max 250kg.
body length: average 194,5 cm, min 171,5 cm, max 212 cm.
palmar callus width: average 13.9 cm, min 13 cm, max 14,5 cm
Male brown bears 7 yo and older
body mass: average 268,7 kg, min 180 kg, max 410 kg.
body length: average 216,7 cm, min 200 cm, max 249 cm.
palmar callus width: average 18.1 cm, min 17 cm, max 19 cm
MAIN MORPHOMETRIC CHARACTERISTICS OF BROWN BEARS IN KAMCHATKA AND SAKHALIN ( I.V. Seryodkin, J. Paczkowski, W.B. Leacock, V.V. Zhakov, A.P. Nikanorov, D.V. Lisitsyn )
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321047341_MAIN_MORPHOMETRIC_CHARACTERISTICS_OF_BROWN_BEARS_IN_KAMCHATKA_AND_SAKHALIN
it looks like the tiger Odyr made a successful attempt to hunt a male brown bear
if you have no acces to group i can share videofile
RE: Tiger Predation - Apex Titan - 12-19-2022
Tigress and cubs feeding on their gaur (or Banteng?) kill in Thailand:
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https://www.thaipbsworld.com/rare-video-released-of-a-family-of-tigers-feeding-on-their-prey-in-thailand/
RE: Tiger Predation - georgegram - 12-25-2022
A tigress chasing langur monkey
Aftermath