(05-02-2019, 12:47 AM)Sanju Wrote: @smedz  not only males form packs called coalitions. A female cheetah with 8 near adult cubs (max) totaling 9 cheetahs is to be reckoned with a mega destructive force in the natural world greater than dhole clan (due to bigger size of 9 cheetahs) or tiger max coalition can be upto 5-6 when mother and cubs are considered totally (coz of more number of cheetahs at max possibility). The number of cubs born can vary from one to eight, though the common number is three to five. (Caro, T. M. (1994). Cheetahs of the Serengeti Plains : Group Living in an Asocial Species)

For that super natural force (though temporary i.e.., until cubs go on their won), adult gaur will be too easy to hunt when they do it coordinately and it'll be a nice snack coz female cheetah will look for big game to sustain its 8 cubs so they do it without hesitation. Otherwise, fastest land mammal always look for "fast food".

(05-02-2019, 01:26 AM)smedz Wrote: Wait, a group of cheetahs can take down a gaur or buffalo?

(05-02-2019, 01:26 AM)smedz Wrote: I hope someone will be able to catch a moment like that on film. Actually, I'll make an Indian cheetah wish list. 

1. To see a cheetah group hunt a gaur 
2. See the cheetahs interact with tigers, leopards, dholes, hyenas, and wolves.
4. To see them do well in India over all.

(05-02-2019, 01:26 AM)smedz Wrote: 3. See a coalition try to take a Sambar 

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

(05-02-2019, 02:07 AM)Sanju Wrote:

(05-02-2019, 01:26 AM)smedz Wrote: Wait, a group of cheetahs can take down a gaur or buffalo?

No. I mean in a hypothetical scenerio, as a cheetah can give birth to 8 cubs at one time (at max potential) but it's ridiculously rare though.

In that case, if no cub lost to any competitive predation and all survive to subadult hood and to near adult stage shortly before independence and temporarily live together before dispersing.

Then that massive group of 9 carnivores in a particular certainly need lot of meat daily to make a living, hence look for largest game around i.e.., gaur. In that way, if all 9 cheetahs can coordinately like they do always, then gaur will be a good snack (they must look for solo ones though coz herd could be fatal to anyone).

Sadly, buffalo only occur in maharashtra, chattisgarh of the deccan peninsular plateau (chota nagpur plateau too).

(05-02-2019, 01:26 AM)smedz Wrote: I hope someone will be able to catch a moment like that on film. Actually, I'll make an Indian cheetah wish list. 

1. To see a cheetah group hunt a gaur 
2. See the cheetahs interact with tigers, leopards, dholes, hyenas, and wolves.
4. To see them do well in India over all.

wow. sounds good to me.

(05-02-2019, 01:26 AM)smedz Wrote: 3. See a coalition try to take a Sambar 

But this doesn't need and neither has any specialty. Solo cheetahs hunt bigger (on avg), tougher, herd-living and dangerous wildebeest (zebra seldom) when compared to sambar (not as dangerous as wildebeest, mostly solo, smaller on avg) and nilgai (same as sambar and even easier due to even smaller size in-contrast to sambar).

So, a solo cheetah can hunt a sambar or nilgai hands down. With a hunting success rate of 58 % (only 2nd highest in felids ) ... !!! Except leopards, dhole, wolf, The super carnivore tiger population is only two (introduced radha - kishan pair) in the park. So, cheetahs can live happier than in Africa which they are always subject to super intense fucking kleptoparasitism from all sorts of carnivores (sometimes even to a vulture, poor thing).

BUT, they may mostly look for "fast food" and contender to 2nd and 3rd fastest land mammal (100 kmph+) on earth, the correct match for the speed king i.e.., "THE BLACKBUCK".... of Nauradehi...

*This image is copyright of its original author

*This image is copyright of its original author

I'm flying ...

*This image is copyright of its original author

yum.. I love fast food.

*This image is copyright of its original author

Such a cutie ...

(05-02-2019, 02:25 AM)smedz Wrote: blackbuck is an excellent jumper! that along with the super speed, will be a good defense against the cheetahs.

*This image is copyright of its original author

(05-12-2019, 04:31 PM)Lycaon Wrote: https://thediplomat.com/2017/07/are-cheetahs-back-in-turkmenistan/

Interesting article from 2017