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RE: Question for Peter - Siegfried - 04-16-2015
Unless you put one of these on your animal, this is a silly debate.
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RE: Question for Peter - Pckts - 04-16-2015
(04-16-2015, 02:58 PM)'Siegfried' Wrote: Unless you put one of these on your animal, this is a silly debate.
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Even then it would need to be outfitted to compare lb for lb pulling....
It's just like combine testing for Humans
Strength is measured in many athletic tests and the same goes for living things.
RE: Question for Peter - brotherbear - 04-17-2015
I'm not too surprised at the comments following my post concerning comparing the strength of a tiger with that of a grizzly at equal size. You take take a healthy mature male of each of these two species at equal bipedal height ( a fair contest ) as can be seen on post #225 at: On The Edge of Extinction - A - Tigers ( pictured - taxidermy ), I would say that the bear has a considerable strength advantage. I have never denied the advantages of the tiger: He is a faster runner and quicker in a fight. He has a considerable advantage in agility and leaping ability. With bigger full-carnivore teeth and a stronger bite force, the tiger has a deadlier bite. Both the claws of the tiger and the grizzly can do devastating damage to flesh, but the tiger has a distinct advantage in that he can grip his prey or adversary much better than a grizzly.
If the tiger were equally as strong as the grizzly, as some suggest, then the grizzly should be on top of the tiger's prey choices, rather than last. The tiger should be routinely hunting mature male grizzlies, as such a bear could feed a tiger for a week. The remaks I'm reading are like those of politicians dancing around an unpopular topic.
RE: Question for Peter - Pckts - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 05:39 PM)'brotherbear' Wrote: I'm not too surprised at the comments following my post concerning comparing the strength of a tiger with that of a grizzly at equal size. You take take a healthy mature male of each of these two species at equal bipedal height ( a fair contest ) as can be seen on post #225 at: On The Edge of Extinction - A - Tigers ( pictured - taxidermy ), I would say that the bear has a considerable strength advantage. I have never denied the advantages of the tiger: He is a faster runner and quicker in a fight. He has a considerable advantage in agility and leaping ability. With bigger full-carnivore teeth and a stronger bite force, the tiger has a deadlier bite. Both the claws of the tiger and the grizzly can do devastating damage to flesh, but the tiger has a distinct advantage in that he can grip his prey or adversary much better than a grizzly.
If the tiger were equally as strong as the grizzly, as some suggest, then the grizzly should be on top of the tiger's prey choices, rather than last. The tiger should be routinely hunting mature male grizzlies, as such a bear could feed a tiger for a week. The remaks I'm reading are like those of politicians dancing around an unpopular topic.
Why would a animal that is "equally as strong" and has considerable weapons be "at the top" of a predators list?
Why wouldn't a animal that is weaker, possesses less of a threat and is easier to kill be at the top of a predators list?
Tigers prey on bears smaller and larger than themselves, bears kill tigers, that is all there is to it on that point.
Nobody is "dancing around the topic"
Lb for lb (the most common way strength is measured), you have no clue who is stronger. Its been stated the same over and over again.
RE: Question for Peter - brotherbear - 04-17-2015
Nice dance. [img]images/smilies/dodgy.gif[/img]
RE: Question for Peter - Pckts - 04-20-2015
(04-17-2015, 09:18 PM)'brotherbear' Wrote: Nice dance. [img]images/smilies/dodgy.gif[/img]
Its called the "common sense dance", my partner is "facts" and the music is provided by "evidence."