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RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-18-2019
This male amur is at least 17 yo and still in incredibly good condition (not my photo)
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-18-2019
Interesting tiger. Male, born in january 2013, in january 2016 weighted - 250 kg. Photo from summer 2018 (not my photo). What do you think, is he fat?
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-18-2019
"White" kruger. Huge...even though he doesnt look like that in this photo (not mine)
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-18-2019
That old male amur once again...still has that body construction typical for amur tigers - heavy front part with slim body.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-19-2019
Dhole from Zoo Budapest (my photo)
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - chaos - 01-19-2019
(01-18-2019, 11:48 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: "White" kruger. Huge...even though he doesnt look like that in this photo (not mine)
This lion appears to have a belly fold, which is indicative of an Indian lion.
Good series of pics.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-19-2019
(01-19-2019, 02:29 AM)chaos Wrote:(01-18-2019, 11:48 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: "White" kruger. Huge...even though he doesnt look like that in this photo (not mine)
This lion appears to have a belly fold, which is indicative of an Indian lion.
Really nice pics.
Its certainly cruger. I thhink its a mane
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Spalea - 01-19-2019
New interaction between a lion and a tiger I just come to discover:
Not a fight, just a skirmish, because of a lioness in estrus.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Rage2277 - 01-19-2019
(01-19-2019, 02:29 AM)chaos Wrote:(01-18-2019, 11:48 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: "White" kruger. Huge...even though he doesnt look like that in this photo (not mine)
This lion appears to have a belly fold, which is indicative of an Indian lion.
Good series of pics.
the belly fold isn't the best way to tell the difference between asiatic and african lions,their faces look different and asiatics tend to be more boxy in build..among other things
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - chaos - 01-19-2019
(01-19-2019, 08:16 AM)Rage2277 Wrote:I agree. This lion does have the "African lion look"(01-19-2019, 02:29 AM)chaos Wrote:(01-18-2019, 11:48 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: "White" kruger. Huge...even though he doesnt look like that in this photo (not mine)
This lion appears to have a belly fold, which is indicative of an Indian lion.
Good series of pics.
the belly fold isn't the best way to tell the difference between asiatic and african lions,their faces look different and asiatics tend to be more boxy in build..among other things
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-19-2019
(01-18-2019, 10:05 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: White kruger (very huge, my estimate around 250 kg) and tigress snarling at each other.
When it comes to this picture, I have quite interesting story. The owner told me, that before the arrival of kruger lion and lioness, there were east african lions in that enclosure (these lions are not huge, they were like 160-170 kg)*. Couple of white tigers in next enclosure (subadult male and female) had quite neutral attitude towards them and vice versa. But when the krugers arrived, the situation has changed. Prime krugers vs. subadult tigers (about 2yo I think). That male kruger can be around 250 kg. For some months the tigers were just lying on the ground, carefully observing the lions...but finally they got used to them and now there is a balance of power between them (another thing is that tigers grew up). It seems that in comparison to lions, tigers are much more conservative when it comes to establishing social relationships. IMO the main reason for this "shyness" is that posiible conflict may result in injury and this has much worse consequences for solitary predator.
* later only one old male stayed in the enclosure, the lionesses were moved to younger male. The old male died at the age of 24 (I saw him 1 month before his death).
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - johnny rex - 01-19-2019
(01-18-2019, 10:05 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: White kruger (very huge, my estimate around 250 kg) and tigress snarling at each other.
Did you observed those animals personally? From your observation, can you guesstimate which animals possessed the largest skulls and tallest shoulder height? Is it the lions or the tigers?
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-19-2019
(01-19-2019, 04:07 PM)johnny rex Wrote:(01-18-2019, 10:05 PM)Amnon242 Wrote: White kruger (very huge, my estimate around 250 kg) and tigress snarling at each other.
Did you observed those animals personally? From your observation, can you guesstimate which animals possessed the largest skulls and tallest shoulder height? Is it the lions or the tigers?
Yes, I have seen those animals in persona many times. Biggest skull...perhaps that white kruger, but that white bengal could be close. But I dont really know and I have never been interested in this. For me they all have basically same skulls (with somewhat different shapes)
Shoulder height: amur tigers and white bengals are obviously taller and longer than east african lions (at least in this zoo). But that kruger male is comparable to them when it comes to shoulder height. But tigers (especially amur) are longer than him.
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-20-2019
BTW ofc its white kruger and not asiatic :-) (my photo)
RE: Zoos, Circuses, Safaris... A Gallery of Captivity - Amnon242 - 01-20-2019
as I said before, I estimate him to be around 250 kg. Perhaps even more. Sorry for the bars...