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RE: N'waswitshaka males - DARK MANE - 12-15-2022
(12-15-2022, 06:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: He is often falling behind his brothers and core of the pride, so he often miss feeding opportunities, or he comes too late.Yeah.
I have also observed the same.
(12-15-2022, 06:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: But thats not the problem, problem is that he is not healthy, he has that "black spot" disease for quite some time now, which prevents him to put weight.
He was alright till March this year.
1 vs 3 fight with gijima males was catastrophe to him.
Well atleast that good there are too many females in kambula pride ( and new girls are continue joining the main pride) hence they will regularly make kills so ubuso will have chance to feed if he misses some.
(12-15-2022, 06:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Its only matter of how long he will be able to live with it, before it becomes fatal.Similar situation was with blonde Avoca.
Let's wish for the best and ready for the worst
RE: N'waswitshaka males - criollo2mil - 12-15-2022
(12-15-2022, 06:51 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: He is often falling behind his brothers and core of the pride, so he often miss feeding opportunities, or he comes too late.What is the “black spot disease”?
But thats not the problem, problem is that he is not healthy, he has that "black spot" disease for quite some time now, which prevents him to put weight.
Its only matter of how long he will be able to live with it, before it becomes fatal.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tonpa - 12-15-2022
Frictional alopecia from him resting on that side on a rough surface
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tr1x24 - 12-15-2022
(12-15-2022, 09:40 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Frictional alopecia from him resting on that side on a rough surface
No.
Its discussed here :
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-common-rear-hip-wasting-away-condition
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tonpa - 12-15-2022
(12-15-2022, 10:59 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(12-15-2022, 09:40 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Frictional alopecia from him resting on that side on a rough surface
No.
Its discussed here :
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-common-rear-hip-wasting-away-condition
Is that specifically referring to hip wastage or the black spot? There's no mention of that in the vets(?) comment.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Hairy tummy - 12-16-2022
The old dark hip spot topic, i would love a vet or someone similar to fully explain it
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tr1x24 - 12-16-2022
(12-15-2022, 11:14 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Is that specifically referring to hip wastage or the black spot? There's no mention of that in the vets(?) comment.
Not sure, but lion who was tested had it.
Regardless, it is some kind of disease, some kind of bacteria or something, as it comes with other health issues, like limping, muscle atrophy, being skinny etc.
Theres very long list of lions who had it, that eventually died from those symptoms in their prime years, just to name few, Hip Scar Majingilane (he got name because of it) Sizanani Thanda Impi, Nsuku Bboy, Limper Tumbela, Talamati DeLaporte and many others.
But there is some who also have it, but for now still live with it normally, like 2 Mbiri males (although Scar/Zigzag started to show symptoms, like limping and he is not as bulky as he was) , or Snip Tail Mpondo, so i think they have less agressive type.
Some, like Sizanani got his whole hip almost "eaten" :
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This is not from lying on the hip, or arthritis.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - DARK MANE - 12-16-2022
Why do lions get TB after some fight/ wrong buffalo hunt only. For example in human TB occurs due to some bacterial infection in lungs which results into cough and sneeze.
But in lion TB generally occurs when he got injured in some fight/ wrong buffalo hunt, can't get to eat for few days, get very thin/ loss body mass, especially alrind hips and suddenly we came to know he got TB.
Also never gotta heard about such TB disease in leopard and cheetah.
Forget about these, never heard about TB in lionesses too. I mean there are many 14-15-16 yrs old lionesses aronnd / recently passed like silver eye, her sister, othawa aunt, her sister, 2 old mhangeni girls, old Styx girl, white dot/ black dot Birmingham girls never heard any TB type disease in them.
These girls also get injured in territorial fights like tsalala girls vs kambula pride ( a few yrs ago), but they don't get TB.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Wyld@Heart - 12-16-2022
(12-16-2022, 06:01 AM)DARK MANE Wrote: Why do lions get TB after some fight/ wrong buffalo hunt only.Couple of reasons for that assumption and it is a reasonable one and not entirely an assumption at all except in maybe that's when attention is drawn to a lion not recovering as one would expect. TB in lions is still a study in progress and I'm not all that clued up about it myself. What I do know is that not all lions will become symptomatic and immunity is gradually being built up naturally although this is still nothing immediate. Infected lions can live for years overtly quite healthily but will rapidly lose condition after a trauma hence how it seems to show up after these events.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tr1x24 - 12-16-2022
(12-16-2022, 06:01 AM)DARK MANE Wrote: Forget about these, never heard about TB in lionesses too
Ximhungwes sister died from TB in 2020 at age of around 7.
Purple Eyes NK also prob had TB.
Lionesses get affected also.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tonpa - 12-16-2022
(12-16-2022, 06:01 AM)DARK MANE Wrote: Why do lions get TB after some fight/ wrong buffalo hunt only. For example in human TB occurs due to some bacterial infection in lungs which results into cough and sneeze.
But in lion TB generally occurs when he got injured in some fight/ wrong buffalo hunt, can't get to eat for few days, get very thin/ loss body mass, especially alrind hips and suddenly we came to know he got TB.
Also never gotta heard about such TB disease in leopard and cheetah.
Forget about these, never heard about TB in lionesses too. I mean there are many 14-15-16 yrs old lionesses aronnd / recently passed like silver eye, her sister, othawa aunt, her sister, 2 old mhangeni girls, old Styx girl, white dot/ black dot Birmingham girls never heard any TB type disease in them.
These girls also get injured in territorial fights like tsalala girls vs kambula pride ( a few yrs ago), but they don't get TB.
The TB lesions are found in the lungs of the Buffalo. The males typically get first choice in kills and so are the ones eating these lesions.
On top of that I think maybe why we don't see females going through the same prolonged decline is that those are symptomatic probably die a lot faster than the males. Blondie could still dominate kills even while skinny which kept him alive for a while, a lioness in the same position would find themselves going without meals.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Mwk85 - 12-16-2022
According to MalaMala they had an encounter with the Nkuhuma pride. Apologies for information being late, I checked their page earlier today and didn't see anything about it??
https://instagram.com/stories/malamalagamereserve/2993969660311027182?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
RE: N'waswitshaka males - DARK MANE - 12-16-2022
Interesting times ahead.
3 young nkuhuma girls ( bboys daughters) were feeding on buffalo. They were suddenly attacked by 2 nwaswitshaka males ( Amahle and eorenji probably).
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RE: N'waswitshaka males - DARK MANE - 12-17-2022
Any further news what happened after ndhzengas males -nkuhuma girls interaction?
Hopefully both males had come for food only and girls and cubs are safe.
RE: N'waswitshaka males - Tr1x24 - 12-17-2022