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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Rabubi - 05-07-2021
(05-07-2021, 05:50 PM)Timbavati Wrote:(05-07-2021, 01:00 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Inbreeding in between first and even 2nd/3rd generation of lions is not dangerous, but longer mating over the years between the same family can potentially raise some problems in genes etc..
But this rarely or never happens in wild, as males moved of and change, thats more in closed private reserves or zoos..
I understand it, but it is still a long-term problem.
Not in this case. The Greater Kruger National Park is vast and has a viable, self-sustaining population of lions. So much so that even if inbreeding does happen within a particular pride, in the long term it will be mitigated or phased out entirely by natural dispersal of new lions, coalitions and prides.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Gijima - 05-09-2021
Recent sighting of RRM. I see at least seven cubs, so they all seem to be doing well.
Credit: Valerie Boscher
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Cunaguaro - 05-09-2021
An very stunning recent sighting of the smaller-maned Mbiri male on a territorial patrol at Orpen in Kruger National Park, It has been reported that his brother was in the same area earlier in the morning. Of which means that both males, they've left the Manyeleti and went into Kruger National Park with their prides again. Let's see what will happens with the lion dynamics in Manyeleti with these boys moving there.
Photo credits goes to: @big_on_wild
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - BA0701 - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 03:41 AM)Cunaguaro Wrote: An very stunning recent sighting of the smaller-maned Mbiri male on a territorial patrol at Orpen in Kruger National Park, It has been reported that his brother was in the same area earlier in the morning. Of which means that both males, they've left the Manyeleti and went into Kruger National Park with their prides again. Let's see what will happens with the lion dynamics in Manyeleti with these boys moving there.
Photo credits goes to: @big_on_wild
Doesn't look good for any offspring ZigZag might have fathered with his recent trysts.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 05-09-2021
"Happiness is coming along your favourite road and finding a beautiful boy. Photie taken on the cut line between Manyeleti and the Mluwati concession (also known as predator plains) in the heart of Kruger we followed him on to the concession, where he was later joined by the most beautiful lady lioness" - Life is sheedy
S8 Boyo
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Timbavati - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 03:34 PM)Tonpa Wrote: "Happiness is coming along your favourite road and finding a beautiful boy. Photie taken on the cut line between Manyeleti and the Mluwati concession (also known as predator plains) in the heart of Kruger we followed him on to the concession, where he was later joined by the most beautiful lady lioness" - Life is sheedy
S8 Boyo
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The Imbali male, A beauty at his best
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 05-09-2021
I wonder how he got that gnarly scar across his face, it's quite something
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Potato - 05-11-2021
Older Mbiri male went back to Kruger and the 6 Mbiri females are at the moment with 3 Tintswalo males. It seems that one of the Mbiri females got mauling from Skorro pride, but she should be fine. Guide said that Zig Zak Scar is massive and much bigger than Tintswalo males.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 05-13-2021
Hey
So the Nharu pride was formed was 2015 correct? As a Birmingham breakaway, and their "first" pride males were the Thanda Impi boys or the old river pride males?
and the Nharu Males and the Tumbelas should be cousins from different fathers correct?
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Timbavati - 05-13-2021
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Hey
So the Nharu pride was formed was 2015 correct? As a Birmingham breakaway, and their "first" pride males were the Thanda Impi boys or the old river pride males?
and the Nharu Males and the Tumbelas should be cousins from different fathers correct?
Throught the first quarter of 2015 and in the 6 past months, The Nharu prides were seen in Tintswalo with the Birmingham males, so, they break-away with the Birmingham males in 2014/2015.
The old River pride males never dominated the Nharu pride, In fact, Nharu/Nharhu name means three in a local language. So, when the three young males arrived on Timbavati were named as Nharhu meaning three members, the name Mbiri means two as well.
If you mean the Nharhu males from Timbavati, that's incorrect, they aren't related with the Tumbela males and neither with any lion in Manyeleti, as far I am aware.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 05-13-2021
Ahhh that makes a lot more sense now, thank you!
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Timbavati - 05-13-2021
(05-13-2021, 05:20 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Ahhh that makes a lot more sense now, thank you!
Anytime my friend,I really love the Timbavati area
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tr1x24 - 05-13-2021
(05-13-2021, 05:20 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Ahhh that makes a lot more sense now, thank you!
Nharu pride and Nharhu males are not related and dont have anything in common.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Potato - 05-13-2021
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: So the Nharu pride was formed was 2015 correct?Either 2014 or 2015, I am not sure.
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: As a Birmingham breakaway, and their "first" pride males were the Thanda Impi boysYes
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: or the old river pride malesNo.
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: and the Nharu Males and the Tumbelas should be cousins from different fathers correct?Tumbela male oryginated for Nharu pride and they are Nharu males. They were 6 males in their generation born by the end of 2015. 1 split away from their pride joined Mbiri pride. Now he is part of 3 Tintswalo males coalition. From the other 5, 3 survived nomadic life and are now know as Tumbela males. Nharhu males dominant in Timbavati now are not anyhow related to the Nharhu males.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Timbavati - 05-13-2021
(05-13-2021, 06:15 PM)Potato Wrote:Tintswalo blog: The three females have been seen mating with the two Selati males, as well as the two Thanda Impi males. The females seem to have settled around the Main Dam area of the Manyeleti, which has a high prey density due to the water. We hope that cubs will be born there, and be safe, as the females have been mating with all the dominant coalitions in the area.(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: So the Nharu pride was formed was 2015 correct?Either 2014 or 2015, I am not sure.
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: As a Birmingham breakaway, and their "first" pride males were the Thanda Impi boysYes
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: or the old river pride malesNo.
(05-13-2021, 04:51 PM)Tonpa Wrote: and the Nharu Males and the Tumbelas should be cousins from different fathers correct?Tumbela male oryginated for Nharu pride and they are Nharu males. They were 6 males in their generation born by the end of 2015. 1 split away from their pride joined Mbiri pride. Now he is part of 3 Tintswalo males coalition. From the other 5, 3 survived nomadic life and are now know as Tumbela males. Nharhu males dominant in Timbavati now are not anyhow related to the Nharhu males.
really sad that Selati males didn't sired cubs with the Nharu females, At least, I don't know about that