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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - criollo2mil - 01-14-2022
(01-14-2022, 09:08 PM)lionuk Wrote:(01-14-2022, 07:09 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Some images of S8/Imbali Male from late December. Showing some nasty scarringI guess it's possible that he had an altercation with two new males from Kruger AFTER he was seen roaring to send his own message back on 6th January.
Anyone know how these were sustained?
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But he didn't have any visible scars at the time of his sending his own message back??
Yes, the Kruger Males are certainly good candidates. They’ve been heard and seen close by.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 01-14-2022
Could've just been from one of the lionesses at a kill, or he got too close to the den site
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 01-16-2022
Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarnes/2751894020744815633?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=share_sheet
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tr1x24 - 01-16-2022
(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 01-16-2022
Skinny Mbiris, hope they catch something soon
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 01-17-2022
No noticeable milk pouch on the female, assuming it's the mother
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - afortich - 01-19-2022
(01-16-2022, 05:04 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Who is the father of the mbira cub??(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - DARK MANE - 01-19-2022
(01-19-2022, 09:26 AM)afortich Wrote:Zig zag mbiri male is the father of this cub. He mate with some of the mbiri girls in mid 2021. These cubs were born in October. Initially they were 3, now only one is surviving.(01-16-2022, 05:04 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Who is the father of the mbira cub??(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
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Mbiri pride has two more cubs, who will be turned to 1 yr by February. They were sired by our favorite junior nkuhuma male.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - lionuk - 01-19-2022
Mbiri Pride
Credit: Vestment Mfumo Machavi
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 01-19-2022
The Mbiri cub
Photo by Heather Barnes
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - criollo2mil - 01-19-2022
(01-19-2022, 09:26 AM)afortich Wrote:That’s going to be a disputed situation. But if I were to give my best guess, he was sired by ZZ Scar Mbiri. From the April breeding. But again it’s my guess. He could very well be from Tintswalo in mating we never saw.(01-16-2022, 05:04 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Who is the father of the mbira cub??(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
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RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Cath2020 - 01-19-2022
(01-19-2022, 06:17 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(01-19-2022, 09:26 AM)afortich Wrote:That’s going to be a disputed situation. But if I were to give my best guess, he was sired by ZZ Scar Mbiri. From the April breeding. But again it’s my guess. He could very well be from Tintswalo in mating we never saw.(01-16-2022, 05:04 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Who is the father of the mbira cub??(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
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I'm doubtful Zigzag is the sire.....if the mating was as early as April of last year. That means the cubs would have had to have been born no later than August. This does not look like a 5 month old cub. I would say that the sire is probably a mating by one of the Tinswalo Males that the guides claim they were witnessing later.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - criollo2mil - 01-19-2022
(01-19-2022, 08:20 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:(01-19-2022, 06:17 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(01-19-2022, 09:26 AM)afortich Wrote:That’s going to be a disputed situation. But if I were to give my best guess, he was sired by ZZ Scar Mbiri. From the April breeding. But again it’s my guess. He could very well be from Tintswalo in mating we never saw.(01-16-2022, 05:04 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Who is the father of the mbira cub??(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
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I'm doubtful Zigzag is the sire.....if the mating was as early as April of last year. That means the cubs would have had to have been born no later than August. This does not look like a 5 month old cub. I would say that the sire is probably a mating by one of the Tinswalo Males that the guides claim they were witnessing later.
This litter of cubs has been well documented. Their first sighting was September as three tiny cubs. At the time they looked to be about 3-6 weeks. We have since seen how they’ve lost two along the way until this remaining cub. The size could be misleading because it’s obviously under developed due to a seemingly nutrition challenge of some kind which likely contributed to the death of the other two. So the timeline does indeed match the mating w ZZ. But I’m not saying it’s definitively so.
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Cath2020 - 01-19-2022
(01-19-2022, 08:39 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(01-19-2022, 08:20 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:(01-19-2022, 06:17 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(01-19-2022, 09:26 AM)afortich Wrote:That’s going to be a disputed situation. But if I were to give my best guess, he was sired by ZZ Scar Mbiri. From the April breeding. But again it’s my guess. He could very well be from Tintswalo in mating we never saw.(01-16-2022, 05:04 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:Who is the father of the mbira cub??(01-16-2022, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Our mbiri cub?
https://instagram.com/stories/heathcbarn...hare_sheet
Yes :
*This image is copyright of its original author
I'm doubtful Zigzag is the sire.....if the mating was as early as April of last year. That means the cubs would have had to have been born no later than August. This does not look like a 5 month old cub. I would say that the sire is probably a mating by one of the Tinswalo Males that the guides claim they were witnessing later.
This litter of cubs has been well documented. Their first sighting was September as three tiny cubs. At the time they looked to be about 3-6 weeks. We have since seen how they’ve lost two along the way until this remaining cub. The size could be misleading because it’s obviously under developed due to a seemingly nutrition challenge of some kind which likely contributed to the death of the other two. So the timeline does indeed match the mating w ZZ. But I’m not saying it’s definitively so.
Yes, I see where severe undernourishment could contribute to the lack of normal development of the cub. In the case, there is a claim for Zigzag. I'm wondering if the Tintswalos also think the cub is theirs, hence why they tolerate it. The lioness could have mated with her brothers as well as her uncle/cousin in order to 'fool' them. What a shame about the cub. It's only a matter of time before it perishes, most likely. What gender is it?
RE: Lions of Manyeleti - Tonpa - 01-19-2022
The cub was sired by a male born into the Mbiri pride
