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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - BorneanTiger - 01-24-2019

(01-24-2019, 01:38 PM)Lycaon Wrote: @BorneanTiger 

Very intriguing info on sudan lions. One would assume the lions in sudan would be closeley related to barbary but are not .

Or not as closely related as that lion in Gabon was to lions in Congo-Brazzaville, which Barnett et al. (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10592-017-1039-2) noted was like the relationship between Amur and Caspian tigers, as in almost genetically identical, being different by 1 mutation, but apparently the relationship between Sudanese or Central African lions and Barbary lions is close enough that the CSG grouped them together as 1 subspecies, separate from Southeastern or Southern African lions, like it grouped all tigers (Pages 6668) in Mainland Asia (Amur-Caspian, Bengal, Malayan-Indochinese and South Chinese tigers) as 1 subspecies, distinct from the Sunda subspecies (of which the only known surviving population is the Sumatran tiger): https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/32616/A_revised_Felidae_Taxonomy_CatNews.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Sanju - 01-24-2019

Panthera leo leo Population is known or referred as "Northern Lion". My suggestion is to alter this thread name to that. IMO @BorneanTiger   Lol


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 01-24-2019

Interesting note on the diet of zakouma lions


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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - BorneanTiger - 01-24-2019

(01-24-2019, 06:13 PM)Sanju Wrote: Panthera leo leo Population is known or referred as "Northern Lion". My suggestion is to alter this thread name to that. IMO @BorneanTiger   Lol

Actually, a problem that I've highlighted earlier is that Southern lions (Panthera leo melanochaita) are also present in North-East or Central Africa, and that's why we have this thread, to make it clear that there are issues with the Cat Specialist Group's classification of lions in Central Africa as Panthera leo leo and those in East Africa (which includes Ethiopia) as Panthera leo melanochaita, and that's why there's a question mark on the map of lion subspecies in Page 72: https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/32616/A_revised_Felidae_Taxonomy_CatNews.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Sanju - 01-24-2019

About #18 post
Great in these days too, these probocideans are one of the important food source for Big cats like Tiger and Lion. It is fascinating to see a hunt. I can imagine how much the prehistoric felid monsters fed on these. Interesting...


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Sanju - 01-24-2019

(01-24-2019, 06:35 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote:
(01-24-2019, 06:13 PM)Sanju Wrote: Panthera leo leo Population is known or referred as "Northern Lion". My suggestion is to alter this thread name to that. IMO @BorneanTiger   Lol

Actually, a problem that I've highlighted earlier is that Southern lions (Panthera leo melanochaita) are also present in North-East or Central Africa, and that's why we have this thread, to make it clear that there are issues with the Cat Specialist Group's classification of lions in Central Africa as Panthera leo leo and those in East Africa (which includes Ethiopia) as Panthera leo melanochaita, and that's why there's a question mark on the map of lion subspecies in Page 72: https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/32616/A_revised_Felidae_Taxonomy_CatNews.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

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Yes, there is a considerable hybridization b/w melonochaita and leo in that zone.


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 01-25-2019

Another photo of dinder lions


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Photographer Rhinhippo Ippo


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 01-26-2019

I have also wondered if lions living in south sudans sudd wetlands are similar in size to botswana lions. Since they both live in similar habitat and have a large prey base.


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - BorneanTiger - 02-04-2019

The caption says that they are Abyssinian lions (and I wonder why the Romanian flag is shown?):






RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 02-13-2019

Francois Basse

A big male cameroon lion


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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 02-13-2019

WCS South sudan

These are recent camera trap images in south sudan.


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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 02-14-2019

A group of lions in chad not in zakouma national park.

In the source it shows that they are north of the capital of n'djamena


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Source shows that lions still occur in north africa


RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 02-18-2019

Steve Winter

One lion being chased away from a female by his brother!!


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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 02-18-2019

Steve Winter

A male lion not wanting to share his food. 


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RE: North-East / Central / Equatorial African lions - Lycaon - 02-20-2019