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RE: Avoca male lions - DARK MANE - 10-29-2022
S. Avocas and Mohawk Avoca.
https://youtu.be/5iXVwE9Ovuw
RE: Avoca male lions - Tonpa - 10-30-2022
Mohawk on CP (same as the subs with WE), Dark Mane on Arathusa
RE: Avoca male lions - Tonpa - 10-30-2022
DM and son on Londolozi, they mention Blondies death so probably from a few days ago.
RE: Avoca male lions - Horizon - 11-01-2022
RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 11-03-2022
Mohawk
RE: Avoca male lions - WildLeonis - 11-03-2022
(11-03-2022, 01:48 AM)afortich Wrote: Mohawk
I can probably count on one hand the number of times I’ve seen Mohawk this relaxed. Lol.He’s usually up and moving around. Or very alert even if he’s resting. The weather must be great indeed in the SS today.
I do wonder how the loss of Blondie is impacting him or if it’s impacting him at all. They’d been together for 9 years and now he’s just gone. Not seen, not answering when Mohawk calls for him. Lions aren’t human but they are very social and form strong bonds with pride members and/or coalition partners. I do wonder if they go through some sort of “grieving” process, albeit brief, when a member with whom they were extremely close dies.
RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 11-03-2022
(11-03-2022, 06:49 AM)WildLeonis Wrote:(11-03-2022, 01:48 AM)afortich Wrote: Mohawk
I can probably count on one hand the number of times I’ve seen Mohawk this relaxed. Lol.He’s usually up and moving around. Or very alert even if he’s resting. The weather must be great indeed in the SS today.
I do wonder how the loss of Blondie is impacting him or if it’s impacting him at all. They’d been together for 9 years and now he’s just gone. Not seen, not answering when Mohawk calls for him. Lions aren’t human but they are very social and form strong bonds with pride members and/or coalition partners. I do wonder if they go through some sort of “grieving” process, albeit brief, when a member with whom they were extremely close dies.
You're probably right. I personally believe that they have to go through a form of grieving process, just like you said, although different than ours. He is probably missing his bro blondie.
RE: Avoca male lions - Duco Ndona - 11-03-2022
A grieving proces is nothing more than our instincts punishing us for losing a loved one. You lost your cub/pall so now suffer and do better next time. Nothing romantic, human or special about that.
A wild animal gets past this rather quickly as they tend to live more in the present and showing a weakness can be dangerous. But I know tigers that lost their partner weeks ago and suddenly started contact calling and still did so for weeks.
RE: Avoca male lions - Tr1x24 - 11-03-2022
Idk why, but its always sad to see remaining male alone who recently lost his partner.
Bond and "friendship" between Mohawk and Blondie was very strong, even on kills and on competition for mating rights, which can be very fierce, you rarely seen this 2 getting agressive or in a fight against each other.
Also, now in more recent times, when Mohawk surpass Blondie in dominance, and now until very end when Blondie was very weak, Mohawk never dominated Blondie on kills, denying him access to food, something which stronger males often do to their weak/sick partners.
True "friendship" and respect to the end between this 2.
RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 11-03-2022
Of course animals don't sorrow in the same manner we do but they have to be in sorrow and miss when a close partner is not longer there, although in a different level compared to humans.
If you have dogs, cats, etc., and pay attention to them, you'll notice that when you leave for a while or days and even death, they get very sad. Therefore, it is easy to conclude that lions will not be an exception to feeling sad.
RE: Avoca male lions - WARRIOR7 - 11-06-2022
DarkMane Avoca, sad to see him like this , he was looking good not long ago now suddenly this.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02yY5RB4H2WVBWKKpmKfGPhmjSj5a5UHs5vXNH2JaEbU2KLJeN5Ku6PVwBt8b3DdBkl&id=100064675009502
RE: Avoca male lions - LandSeaLion - 11-06-2022
Oh no. :’(
I saw a picture of him a couple of weeks ago and thought he was looking a bit skinny even then…but that is a sharp deterioration. I hope he does not have TB.
RE: Avoca male lions - Tr1x24 - 11-06-2022
(11-06-2022, 05:56 AM)WARRIOR7 Wrote: DarkMane Avoca, sad to see him like this , he was looking good not long ago now suddenly this.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...4675009502
Not suprising, as he was left alone, as his son returned to Talamatis and they where/are in western sector.
Although he can prob survive on his own for time being, he definitely benefits having his son/s or Talamatis with him, they will get him food more often and easier then when he needs to do it by himself.
Alone, with limp and not so great condition, he is mostly reliant on scavenging, opportunities which might not occur too often.
RE: Avoca male lions - BigLion39 - 11-06-2022
Oh no, he went downhill quick. Poor boy. It would benefit Mohawk and Darkmane so, so, so much to team up. I know it's not likely but it would so much.
RE: Avoca male lions - Duco Ndona - 11-06-2022
Perhaps if they were evicted from their prides at roughly the same times.
Avocas seem to be having a disastrous year aswell. Not that long ago we were discussing a potential takeover of the Kambulas. And now they are almost down to one.