(11-15-2019, 10:45 AM)Apollo Wrote: Giant tiger

(11-21-2019, 08:29 AM)Apollo Wrote: 340Kg tiger

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(10-01-2019, 11:30 AM)Hello Wrote: Simba (112 cm at shoulders, 375 kg), he looks large framed and obese.If he was fit he may weigh 300-320 kg,In wild easily 250 kg+
http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/222789

(11-28-2019, 08:54 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(10-01-2019, 11:30 AM)Hello Wrote: Simba (112 cm at shoulders, 375 kg), he looks large framed and obese.If he was fit he may weigh 300-320 kg,In wild easily 250 kg+
http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/222789

Amazing!!! This is the first time that I see this lion "alive" and also that I know how was Nick Nyoka.

Thanks for sharing this video.

(06-14-2019, 06:54 PM)Shadow Wrote: I actually asked a bit about Simba and Nick Nyoka. It is unclear, where it has been weighed, but it was said to be 826 lbs, which is about 375 kg. At time it was also in Guinness Book of Records as the largest lion in the world, shoulder height was 111 cm. So it is assumed, that maybe it has been weighed also by people of Guinness, but that is just assumption. I was told, that history of Simba is actually very sketchy.

Staff from zoo of Colchester, where Simba and Nyoka visited 1970 said, that Simba was clearly obese. I got also a link to rare, but quite good quality video footage, where it can be clearly seen. That belly swinging there sideways looks like to have some fat inside. Simba can be seen from 2:18 forward.

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/222789

(06-14-2019, 08:20 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(06-14-2019, 08:03 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(06-14-2019, 06:54 PM)Shadow Wrote: I actually asked a bit about Simba and Nick Nyoka. It is unclear, where it has been weighed, but it was said to be 826 lbs, which is about 375 kg. At time it was also in Guinness Book of Records as the largest lion in the world, shoulder height was 111 cm. So it is assumed, that maybe it has been weighed also by people of Guinness, but that is just assumption. I was told, that history of Simba is actually very sketchy.

Staff from zoo of Colchester, where Simba and Nyoka visited 1970 said, that Simba was clearly obese. I got also a link to rare, but quite good quality video footage, where it can be clearly seen. That belly swinging there sideways looks like to have some fat inside. Simba can be seen from 2:18 forward.

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/222789

He's definitely obese but a huge cat none the less. In the wild he'd still be a 270kg+ cat with his dimensions. IMO

Yes it is a big one. Even if 50 kg off it might look pretty fit. I haven´t looked so closely that how good origin of it is known, so I put here a short quote from message, which I got: 

"Nick travelled around zoos and circus’s displaying some of his animals.  In 1970, Nick bought some of his animals to Colchester zoo to display, his famous lion Simba was one of them.  At that time Nick claimed Simba was the largest captive lion in the world, which he had caught on the Serengeti Plain in 1959."

It was nice to get reply from zoo and learn what they knew and could tell. As I said, for me around 300 kg lion in wild isn´t something what I would call impossible at all. But if clearly heavier, then the more claimed weight, the more doubts start to be in mind. 

(11-28-2019, 10:53 PM)Shadow Wrote:

Quote:I actually asked a bit about Simba and Nick Nyoka. It is unclear, where it has been weighed, but it was said to be 826 lbs, which is about 375 kg. At time it was also in Guinness Book of Records as the largest lion in the world, shoulder height was 111 cm. So it is assumed, that maybe it has been weighed also by people of Guinness, but that is just assumption. I was told, that history of Simba is actually very sketchy.

Staff from zoo of Colchester, where Simba and Nyoka visited 1970 said, that Simba was clearly obese. I got also a link to rare, but quite good quality video footage, where it can be clearly seen. That belly swinging there sideways looks like to have some fat inside. Simba can be seen from 2:18 forward.

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/222789

I contacted Colchester zoo earlier this year, I put here those postings concerning Simba and Nyoka since you seem to be interested. Not much more, something little though.

(11-28-2019, 10:55 PM)Shadow Wrote: so I put here a short quote from message, which I got: 

"Nick travelled around zoos and circus’s displaying some of his animals.  In 1970, Nick bought some of his animals to Colchester zoo to display, his famous lion Simba was one of them.  At that time Nick claimed Simba was the largest captive lion in the world, which he had caught on the Serengeti Plain in 1959."

It was nice to get reply from zoo and learn what they knew and could tell. As I said, for me around 300 kg lion in wild isn´t something what I would call impossible at all. But if clearly heavier, then the more claimed weight, the more doubts start to be in mind. 

(11-28-2019, 10:57 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(11-28-2019, 10:53 PM)Shadow Wrote:

Quote:I actually asked a bit about Simba and Nick Nyoka. It is unclear, where it has been weighed, but it was said to be 826 lbs, which is about 375 kg. At time it was also in Guinness Book of Records as the largest lion in the world, shoulder height was 111 cm. So it is assumed, that maybe it has been weighed also by people of Guinness, but that is just assumption. I was told, that history of Simba is actually very sketchy.

Staff from zoo of Colchester, where Simba and Nyoka visited 1970 said, that Simba was clearly obese. I got also a link to rare, but quite good quality video footage, where it can be clearly seen. That belly swinging there sideways looks like to have some fat inside. Simba can be seen from 2:18 forward.

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/222789

I contacted Colchester zoo earlier this year, I put here those postings concerning Simba and Nyoka since you seem to be interested. Not much more, something little though.

Excelent man! Bring it on! So, it is not sure if the lion was actually weighed or not, just like the case of the Li-tigon "Cubanacan", which actually was not weighed, just measured.

The lion was huge, that is for sure, but it was obviously very obese. Somehow 111 cm tall at the shoulder looks low for such a large animal, but also based no the video it seems that Nyoka was not a very tall man too.

(11-28-2019, 11:17 PM)Shadow Wrote: I have had some interest to find out information about animals which would be even beyond exceptional. With Simba only place coming to my mind with possible good information could be staff of Guinness World Records. But it might be the same as usual, they have in past published a lot of information with inaccuracies/open questions what comes to animals, especially wild animals. But because Simba was captive, who knows... I actually forgot to ask from there, that do they have information about possible weighing.

Then again, as you said, it was clearly obese lion and quite big. When we have obese people over 500 kg, it makes perfectly sense that any lion or tiger can be fed to be very heavy in captivity. That was probably one reason why I forgot to ask from Guinness, fit and big animals are way more interesting. I think, that captive animals show at least roughly where fitness starts to change to obesity.