(02-26-2020, 09:49 PM)ragelion Wrote: So how do they knock over 2 ton young elephants
So do you think tigers can tip a truck

(02-26-2020, 09:59 PM)ragelion Wrote: Ok sorry
I wont be a fanboy anymore

(02-26-2020, 10:11 PM)ragelion Wrote: Anyway what do you guys think about the accounts I posted before that post

(02-26-2020, 10:28 PM)Shadow Wrote: I´ll write a little bit more. What comes to strength, of course big animals, which @Pckts mentioned have strength to tip cars, it´s totally another thing if they do it, because they usually don´t know how it would be done. Elephants naturally can do such things even by accident, they are after all... elephants.

What comes to big cats, lions and yes, of course tigers too for sure, imo, have more than enough strength to tip some car, at least cars around 700-1000 kg, like we see strongmen to do in competitions sometimes. But.. again, who would teach them how to use their potential, they don´t have our hands and intelligence. So no, we´ll never see such thing to happen, even though these animals are extremely strong.

And then as I said, tackling a bigger animal is another thing. If a 2500 kg elephant sees a lion coming and jumping and decides, that ok, I push back a bit, that elephant won´t even flinch when lion bounces back. But if/when that elephant gets scared it can be caught off balance. When discussing about these things, it´s good to separate certain things from each others and keep things realistic.

(02-26-2020, 10:39 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(02-26-2020, 10:28 PM)Shadow Wrote: I´ll write a little bit more. What comes to strength, of course big animals, which @Pckts mentioned have strength to tip cars, it´s totally another thing if they do it, because they usually don´t know how it would be done. Elephants naturally can do such things even by accident, they are after all... elephants.

What comes to big cats, lions and yes, of course tigers too for sure, imo, have more than enough strength to tip some car, at least cars around 700-1000 kg, like we see strongmen to do in competitions sometimes. But.. again, who would teach them how to use their potential, they don´t have our hands and intelligence. So no, we´ll never see such thing to happen, even though these animals are extremely strong.

And then as I said, tackling a bigger animal is another thing. If a 2500 kg elephant sees a lion coming and jumping and decides, that ok, I push back a bit, that elephant won´t even flinch when lion bounces back. But if/when that elephant gets scared it can be caught off balance. When discussing about these things, it´s good to separate certain things from each others and keep things realistic.

Big Cats don't have the morphology to tip cars, a Human can deadlift since it's bipedal while a big cat isn't meant to lift in that way, they're meant for dragging pulling.
But of course a big cat is stonger than the strongest man, although I'd love to see Thor Bjornsson put on a harness and have a tug of war with a Lion or Tiger.

(02-26-2020, 11:00 PM)ragelion Wrote: Anyway It can still knock a bull buffalo and a 2 ton young elephant
I found this
 A charging lion can topple over the biggest giraffe. A group of lions can bring down a full-grown hippopotamus.
https://www.google.com/search?q=charging+lion+topple+giraffe&sxsrf=ALeKk01p3RhuN6dpTMy9dVnGu57PL2NP9g:1582739939120&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj05t7e5e_nAhWn34UKHQugBHYQ_AUoAXoECAgQCQ&biw=1920&bih=973

(02-26-2020, 11:16 PM)ragelion Wrote: Then why does this exist

Even a single male can overpower a young elephant. Between 1994 and 1997, Dereck Joubert found that the lions of Botswana’s Chobe National Park were getting better and better at hunting elephants. He wrote: “In one notable case, a single male lion ran at nearly full speed into the side of a 6-year-old male calf with sufficient force to collapse the elephant on its side.”
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/older-elephants-know-the-best-anti-lion-moves

(02-26-2020, 11:35 PM)ragelion Wrote: By knock I mean EXACTLY THIS

Before I post I found this video of a lion pride killing a buffalo in water
https://youtu.be/V8C9LlhvK9o

He said 6 year old so it confirmed

By knock I mean this

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See how he made that 4 year old elephant go down 
I mean EXACTLY that when i say knock

Ok btw that lion in the Dereck account said he charged with force to MAKE IT COLLAPSE

STILL IT IS IMPRESSIVE