(01-20-2015, 01:52 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 01:47 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 01:30 AM)'chaos' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 01:23 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 12:40 AM)'faess' Wrote: I'm trying to find the site where I read the source from but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8XIRo8b-s

He more or less says the same around 9:00 but wasn't as specific.





 

TFS, intersting listen.

 




 

I do believe he was talking about lionesses. No mention of males. We've already seen it happen before with adult cows.
Even Packer can proven wrong. 

 



 

He specifically states males lions and their hunting of larger prey, together. Packer can be proven wrong, but it just hasn't happened yet and he has decades of expierence with these aniimals in their wild settings. So his word is gold compared to any of ours.


  'chaos' Wrote: Not sure if this has already been posted. This lion single handedly takes this bull buffalo down. No assist to
his partners on this. Not the largest, but nonetheless, male.
http://youtu.be/L3aAGPa3Ifk
Seems more videos are surfacing.




Already posted here, its a cow. No Testicles, and there are 3 lions on it.
Seems that the same videos are posted because none are able find any with a single lion taking down a adult bull buffalo.


 

Just watched the whole video and there are absolutely No testicles on that cow. So either one of two things, its a cow (the size of it would definitely lead you believe that it is) or its a juevenile and its testicles have not dropped yet, right?

 

(01-20-2015, 02:49 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 02:02 AM)'chaos' Wrote: After a further listen to Packer, he does mention male lions, my bad. He also states they have "almost" no chance.
We all know what "almost" means. Its not the same as "absolutely". I never claimed it happens often. You on the
other hand stated theres no proof it "ever" happens or has happened.
 


 

You are splitting hairs, he specifically says "almost no chance" so that is pretty much stating that it isn't going to happen. But like any scientist, you should always leave some room for new findings. The world isn't made up of absolutes, there can always be a exception.

Now in regards to the Cow, I don't know enough about the difference in cow and bull urinating technique to try and determine ones urination to another. I do know one thing for a absolute fact, males have testicles.
That cow does not, so one of two things can be determined. Either.......... Its a cow or its a juvenile who hasnt had its testicles drop yet.

*This image is copyright of its original author

There are also 3 male lions there which all could of attributed to the hunt, chasing the prey attacking different points etc. They also still bite at the hind legs so its still not a lone lion taking down a adult bull buffalo which of course is what this entire debate is based off of.

 

 

(01-20-2015, 03:16 AM)'chaos' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 02:49 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(01-20-2015, 02:02 AM)'chaos' Wrote: After a further listen to Packer, he does mention male lions, my bad. He also states they have "almost" no chance.
We all know what "almost" means. Its not the same as "absolutely". I never claimed it happens often. You on the
other hand stated theres no proof it "ever" happens or has happened.
 



 

You are splitting hairs, he specifically says "almost no chance" so that is pretty much stating that it isn't going to happen. But like any scientist, you should always leave some room for new findings. The world isn't made up of absolutes, there can always be a exception.

Now in regards to the Cow, I don't know enough about the difference in cow and bull urinating technique to try and determine ones urination to another. I do know one thing for a absolute fact, males have testicles.
That cow does not, so one of two things can be determined. Either.......... Its a cow or its a juvenile who hasnt had its testicles drop yet.

*This image is copyright of its original author

There are also 3 male lions there which all could of attributed to the hunt, chasing the prey attacking different points etc. They also still bite at the hind legs so its still not a lone lion taking down a adult bull buffalo which of course is what this entire debate is based off of.

 


 

Thats pure speculation. No room for that. See that appendage in front of that bulls balls. Lets just say females dont have that.
The buffalo in question certainly does. As to why he has no visble balls, who knows, I've met people in my life with little or no
balls, and others with balls bigger than the bull you posted. lol. All kidding aside, balls are not always so prominently displayed
on all male buffalo.

 

(01-20-2015, 03:26 AM)'chaos' Wrote: Just watched the vid again. There are balls, just not quite as visible as the ones on King Dong, that you posted.
Then again I've never seen balls that big on any buffalo period. "He's got the biggest balls of all"

 

(01-20-2015, 05:00 AM)'Pantherinae' Wrote: Can't we just dropp this discussion? We will not agree anyway... 
@chaos does it really matter that much if @Pckts agree with you're opinions? he has his own opinion and that's legal, aswell as he just said he think it happens, because he saw that male trying. And I agree it happens, but probably quite rare. not because he isn't capable to do so, but The pride or coallition is almost always Gonna be there so he will hunt together with them ofcourse he will! that advantage every animal would use if they and the option, on such dangerous prey!