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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 04-22-2024

(04-22-2024, 06:36 PM)Vengeous Wrote: It seems that the larger Plains Camp male has mated with one of the Ntsevu lionesses... according to this report by Londolozi:

Prob infertile K6.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T I N O - 04-22-2024

Plains Camp male and Ntsevu lioness
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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T_Ferguson - 04-22-2024

I think that might be K6.  That's a pretty big Lioness, and I think that lines up with what I recall of K6.  Nice to see her that close to the "big" PCM to put some perspective on that.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - NLAL11 - 04-23-2024

Elephant Plains Lion Sightings 15-21 April 2024

https://elephantplains.co.za/big-5-blog/2024/04/weekly-big-5-sightings-15-21-april-2024/

Monday, 15 April 2024
  • Talamati male lion stationary in the Quarry on the Simbambili Firebreak.
Tuesday, 16 April 2024 (No Sightings)

Wednesday, 17 April 2024
  • Talamati pride of lions consisting of three individual’s stationary on Olad Airstrip Road.
  • One Kambula male lion stationary at Elephant Plains Open Area.
Thursday, 18 April 2024
  • Two unidentified male lion’s stationary on Susie’s Straight.
Friday, 19 April 2024
  • Talamati pride of lions consisting of three individuals mobile West on the fence line towards PU Corner.
  • Nkuhuma pride of lions consisting of four individual’s stationary on Mutzenzelek.
Saturday, 20 April 2024
  • two Black Dam male lion’s stationary on Cheetah Cutline.
  • The Nkuhuma pride consisting of one sub adult male and four lioness which were mating with the two Kambula male lions at Knobthorn Pan.
Sunday, 21 April 2024
  • The Nkuhuma pride consisting of one sub adult male and four lioness which were mating with one Kambula male lion in the block West of Madash junction Second windmill Road.
  • One Talamati male lion and three Nkuhuma lioness stationary on Arathusa Safari Driveway.


RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T_Ferguson - 04-23-2024

More Tsalala.  I know it was stated here that we really wouldn't know if she was pregnant or not by a walk by, but I'm going to just say that she is, because it would be great news for her and what she represents.





RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Ttimemarti - 04-23-2024

Question how is this tsalala girl related to the older two mhangenis the mhangenis girls mother and the tsalala females mother had the same mother or no? Mhangenis from the tsalala pride but it seems every breakaway porter the core pride is doing worse talamati and tsalala

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Mapokser - 04-23-2024

Wow, I assume it was K6 with the PCM? Next to her Makhunga looks bigger than all other males who mated with her I think, Mohawk, BDM, Nhenha, OM and Ndhzengas. But even Makhunga doesn't look crazily big next to her, which is insane, what a beast of a lioness she is, a shame she can't have cubs.

Even Londolozi says in the article that Makhunga is possibly the biggest male in the SS ( only one I think may or may not be bigger is the blond Mantimahle, Makhunga's half-brother ).

The biggest male and female in the SS mating, their offspring if K6 was fertile would be huge.

But anyway, let's hope K6 don't attract the PCM to the Ndhzenhas like she did with the BDM or with the Avocas and OM towards Bboys.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Mapokser - 04-23-2024

@Ttimemarti The elder Manghenis are her half aunt IIRC.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Ttimemarti - 04-23-2024

(04-23-2024, 05:25 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @Ttimemarti The elder Manghenis are her half aunt IIRC.

Gotcha! Thanks!

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Mapokser - 04-23-2024

Compilation of the male lions that interacted with K6 or some other Ntsevu females, some photos are great for size comparison, others not so much.

Nhenha Birmingham and K6:


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Amahle Ndhzenga and 1/6 Ntsevu female:


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Eorenji Ndhzenga and K6:


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1/4 Ndhzenga ( I believe Eorenji ) with 1/6 Ntsevu female:


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Makhunga PCM and K6:


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Bigger BDM with K6:


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Fuller-maned Matshipiri with 1/6 Ntsevu female ( not K6 ):


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Othawa Male and K6 ( not good for comparison as she's in front o him ):


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Old Scarnose Majingilane and his Ntsevu daughters, not great for comparison but still:


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Mohawk Avoca & 1/6 Ntsevu females, again not great but it's something:


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T_Ferguson - 04-23-2024

That was a great post.   Thank you.  Girl gets around.  She is such a huge Lioness, and it's proven time and time again next to basically every male in Sabi over the past 4 or 5 years.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 04-23-2024

On a lot of these photos for size comparisons there is "problem" of camera angle and position of lions on it, which appears as "illusion" for us.

For example, on this photos K6 is clearly closer to the camera, so she will appear bigger compared to male, than she actually is:


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On this example, male is closer, so he will appear bigger:


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Best ones are like this, where both parties are very closely in straight line next to each other, on similar ground lvl and on equal distance from camera:


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Although, even here, because of the grass, we cant see ground lvl on which their feat are, if K6 is slightly on higher ground, she will appear taller compared to male than she actually is.

Videos are way better for size comparisons, as we have multiple views from different angles and positions, where we can get better judgment of size, without 1 shot illusions.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - BA0701 - 04-23-2024

Londolozi posted this image, asking if anyone can identify these four males. A lot of people saying it is the Majins, but there is a lot of people also saying it is the B-Boys. I am sure someone here can ID them.



RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 04-23-2024

(04-23-2024, 10:04 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Londolozi posted this image, asking if anyone can identify these four males. A lot of people saying it is the Majins, but there is a lot of people also saying it is the B-Boys. I am sure someone here can ID them.

Majings.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Go131810 - 04-24-2024

(04-23-2024, 04:18 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Question how is this tsalala girl related to the older two mhangenis the mhangenis girls mother and the tsalala females mother had the same mother or no? Mhangenis from the tsalala pride but it seems every breakaway porter the core pride is doing worse talamati and tsalala

Hi I sometimes forget. What I remember is that the Tsalala lioness mother hopefully resting in peace was a Magingilanes daughter. The Mahangeni pride daughters of the Mapogos who were born in the Tsalala pride also had daughters of the Magingilanes. I get confused, because I sometimes forget the relationship with the Tslalala lionesses, but they were not Mapogo daughters they were the Split Rock male lions daughters; I forget how many lionesses were left after the Mapogo daughters had their cubs, but it was some of the Mhangenies mothers. If they were the Mahangenis mothers than this Tslalala lioness mother was their half sister and or cousin. That makes the Mapogo daughters the two older lionesses their aunt to the Tsalala lioness. The two older daughters of the Mapogo daughters in the Mahangeni pride are daughters of Magingilanes and the youngest one of the pride is a Birmingham daughter like the Tsalala lioness. The Mapogo daughters are the two older lionesses and the grandma of the Tsalala lioness have the same mothers or aunts that are from the Tsalala lionesss but they are only related trough the Tsalala pride.