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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - KM600 - 09-12-2023

(09-12-2023, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 02:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Why would be too serious? Lion teeths and claw can do serious damage.

It's the shape and size of the hole that's a little unusual, this is what I expect from injuries when I lion gets bitten through the skull. S8 has a much bigger hole in his head.

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(09-12-2023, 02:06 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Remember Mfumo face injury, and that was caused by his brother in a fight for mating rights.

Mfumo didn't have a skull injury, his injury was on skin and tissue under the right eye and nose area. That's probably a bad reference for this case.
Unusual injury for sure but RRM has an unusual way of fighting, Mandevu wounds after the fight were spread out like S8 albeit the skin wasn’t anywhere near as pierced. Mandevu was extremely lucky to have injuries that minor considering the position RRM had him in.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 09-12-2023

(09-12-2023, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote: It's the shape and size of the hole that's a little unusual, this is what I expect from injuries when I lion gets bitten through the skull. S8 has a much bigger hole in his head.

This what you posted is more likely from horn.

(09-12-2023, 08:07 PM)sik94 Wrote: Mfumo didn't have a skull injury, his injury was on skin and tissue under the right eye and nose area. That's probably a bad reference for this case.

It was just example on you statement that S8 injury is "too seriuos" for lion fight, while Mfumo almost lost an eye and had huge gash in a mating right fight, with his brother.

Lions can easily rip each others face off.


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Same pattern as S8 injury, just S8 is more deeper and over the eye.

Watch more closely s8 injury, he has gash beneath his eye aswell, if that was horn, it would pierce his eye out.

And he has cut over 2nd eye aswell.


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Lions bite and then pull/rip, like pitbulls, thats how you get injury like this and not just a hole.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - KM600 - 09-12-2023

Just want to add aswell that the fight was confirmed either cos it was witnessed or either male had crossed their territory into the others and ppl have assumed they met. Makes much more sense for this injury to be directly from RRM as I mentioned previously not only cos of the way he fights but even if that was from a horn or whatever, that would mean that S8 had pretty much no other/extremely minor injuries from his fight with RRM. Minor/no injuries at all would mean he dominated the fight and RRM should have injuries to a higher extent unless he run off which that in itself is very unlikely, not sure if all that made sense to u lot but that’s my pov.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - afortich - 09-12-2023

The ranger in this video at 1:25 says that S8 got the injury due to a fight with another lion.






RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - criollo2mil - 09-12-2023

(09-12-2023, 08:46 PM)KM600 Wrote: Just want to add aswell that the fight was confirmed either cos it was witnessed or either male had crossed their territory into the others and ppl have assumed they met. Makes much more sense for this injury to be directly from RRM as I mentioned previously not only cos of the way he fights but even if that was from a horn or whatever, that would mean that S8 had pretty much no other/extremely minor injuries from his fight with RRM. Minor/no injuries at all would mean he dominated the fight and RRM should have injuries to a higher extent unless he run off which that in itself is very unlikely, not sure if all that made sense to u lot but that’s my pov.


no fight was witnessed. i have asked several guides and there is just speculation and very likely fans spreading word of mouth.

one guide that had publicly stated it was fight between RRM and S8 has not backtracked and clarified that he did not know FIRST hand that it was indeed a fight between the two.

it is still possible it was...just that no one can confirm

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - BA0701 - 09-12-2023

(09-12-2023, 11:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 08:46 PM)KM600 Wrote: Just want to add aswell that the fight was confirmed either cos it was witnessed or either male had crossed their territory into the others and ppl have assumed they met. Makes much more sense for this injury to be directly from RRM as I mentioned previously not only cos of the way he fights but even if that was from a horn or whatever, that would mean that S8 had pretty much no other/extremely minor injuries from his fight with RRM. Minor/no injuries at all would mean he dominated the fight and RRM should have injuries to a higher extent unless he run off which that in itself is very unlikely, not sure if all that made sense to u lot but that’s my pov.


no fight was witnessed.  i have asked  several guides and there is just speculation and very likely fans spreading word of mouth.  

one guide that had publicly stated it was fight between RRM and S8 has not backtracked and clarified that he did not know FIRST hand that it was indeed a fight between the two.

it is still possible it was...just that no one can confirm

The fog of war begins to lift.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - afortich - 09-12-2023

(09-12-2023, 11:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 11:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 08:46 PM)KM600 Wrote: Just want to add aswell that the fight was confirmed either cos it was witnessed or either male had crossed their territory into the others and ppl have assumed they met. Makes much more sense for this injury to be directly from RRM as I mentioned previously not only cos of the way he fights but even if that was from a horn or whatever, that would mean that S8 had pretty much no other/extremely minor injuries from his fight with RRM. Minor/no injuries at all would mean he dominated the fight and RRM should have injuries to a higher extent unless he run off which that in itself is very unlikely, not sure if all that made sense to u lot but that’s my pov.


no fight was witnessed.  i have asked  several guides and there is just speculation and very likely fans spreading word of mouth.  

one guide that had publicly stated it was fight between RRM and S8 has not backtracked and clarified that he did not know FIRST hand that it was indeed a fight between the two.

it is still possible it was...just that no one can confirm

The fog of war begins to lift.

Lol, you're right. However, with the evidence of the white BYM presented by my friend @Tr1x24 and hearing the ranger saying it was "fight with another lion", it is very likely that S8 fought another lion and got injured.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - BA0701 - 09-13-2023

(09-12-2023, 11:59 PM)afortich Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 11:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 11:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(09-12-2023, 08:46 PM)KM600 Wrote: Just want to add aswell that the fight was confirmed either cos it was witnessed or either male had crossed their territory into the others and ppl have assumed they met. Makes much more sense for this injury to be directly from RRM as I mentioned previously not only cos of the way he fights but even if that was from a horn or whatever, that would mean that S8 had pretty much no other/extremely minor injuries from his fight with RRM. Minor/no injuries at all would mean he dominated the fight and RRM should have injuries to a higher extent unless he run off which that in itself is very unlikely, not sure if all that made sense to u lot but that’s my pov.


no fight was witnessed.  i have asked  several guides and there is just speculation and very likely fans spreading word of mouth.  

one guide that had publicly stated it was fight between RRM and S8 has not backtracked and clarified that he did not know FIRST hand that it was indeed a fight between the two.

it is still possible it was...just that no one can confirm

The fog of war begins to lift.

Lol, you're right. However, with the evidence of the white BYM presented by my friend @Tr1x24 and hearing the ranger saying it was "fight with another lion", it is very likely that S8 fought another lion and got injured.

Agreed, after all that has been said, I def think this was another lion, but who and how that came to be are now the questions. Like, was it an invasion, did someone just happen to move through an area controlled by someone else after having been pushed by other outside influences, like another pride, so many unknowns currently, but I do think it was another lion.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Hairy tummy - 09-13-2023

Looks like a tooth injury to me,rr probably locked on then looks like the tooth dragged down s8's head

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 09-13-2023

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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Mapokser - 09-13-2023

The main wound aside he has 3 other obvious wound marks on the left side of his face, and maybe some other scratch. It's obvious it was caused by another lion.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - afortich - 09-13-2023

(09-13-2023, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: by deon_wildlifephotography


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Nice pic bro, it depicts the big injury next to a small puncture, which appear to be consistent with a bite by the canines of a lion.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - KM600 - 09-13-2023

(09-13-2023, 01:04 AM)Mapokser Wrote: The main wound aside he has 3 other obvious wound marks on the left size of his face, and maybe some other scratch. It's obvious it was caused by another lion.
The biggest wound above his left eye by itself is bad enough but is obviously overshadowed by the wound about his right eye. Let’s just say he’s not gonna try his luck with RRM again if it was indeed him and he’s certainly not gonna challenge both BDMs for some time, you could argue BDMs best chance at taking over a pride would now be the Talamati breakaways now this situation has unfolded.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - afortich - 09-13-2023

(09-13-2023, 01:07 AM)afortich Wrote:
(09-13-2023, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: by deon_wildlifephotography


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Nice pic bro, it depicts the big injury next to a small puncture, which appear to be consistent with a bite by the canines of a lion.

To be honest, it could also be the claws of a front paw according to the postion of each puncture if they were facing each other.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - BA0701 - 09-13-2023

(09-13-2023, 12:55 AM)Tonpa Wrote: by deon_wildlifephotography


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Wow, whoever it was, really got him good. If it was RRM, then he has shown a penchant for biting the top of the head, which, when you think about it, is a really smart move. That biggest wound, above his right eye, looks nearly identical to Scarface Musketeer's wound. In Scar's case, that thing never would fully heal, and required a lot of veterinary attention over the years, which S8 will obviously not be getting.