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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-26-2017

(10-26-2017, 08:43 PM)HouseOfLions Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 07:38 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 06:33 PM)NCAT33 Wrote: Is it possible that the Tsalala/Marthly males will be able to overtake the Avocas, at some point, since they out number them? Maybe in a year or two when they get older.

Yes, I believe so. They had few run-ins already
At least in couple of occasions Tsalalas chased Avocas

Even since they got beating from bigger males (Some other coilation in Southern Sabi sands), Tsalalas are low on confidence and being chased by Avocas
Its matter of time before the tables turn

Well, there was also the time where the Avoca beat on one of the Tsalala males and made the other 2 runs away in the other direction. Then there is also the time where the Avoca stole their kill.

Being 3 doesn't automatically mean you have an advantage, there have been many incidents in the wild where 2 lions have beaten 3 lions. 

Plus, the Avocas are not fully in their prime as well. I think they are going to be 6 soon. So, they are also coming into their full prime.

Both Avocas & Tsalalas are little more than 4 year old. Avocas are slightly older by few months.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - HouseOfLions - 10-27-2017

(10-26-2017, 08:52 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 08:43 PM)HouseOfLions Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 07:38 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 06:33 PM)NCAT33 Wrote: Is it possible that the Tsalala/Marthly males will be able to overtake the Avocas, at some point, since they out number them? Maybe in a year or two when they get older.

Yes, I believe so. They had few run-ins already
At least in couple of occasions Tsalalas chased Avocas

Even since they got beating from bigger males (Some other coilation in Southern Sabi sands), Tsalalas are low on confidence and being chased by Avocas
Its matter of time before the tables turn

Well, there was also the time where the Avoca beat on one of the Tsalala males and made the other 2 runs away in the other direction. Then there is also the time where the Avoca stole their kill.

Being 3 doesn't automatically mean you have an advantage, there have been many incidents in the wild where 2 lions have beaten 3 lions. 

Plus, the Avocas are not fully in their prime as well. I think they are going to be 6 soon. So, they are also coming into their full prime.

Both Avocas & Tsalalas are little more than 4 year old. Avocas are slightly older by few months.

As I said, they are still young. And as of now, no one has a real advantage. Only time will tell what becomes of these 2 coalitions. 

Theoretically, 3 is bigger than 2 but this is the wild and these are lions, having an advantage by 1 doesn't always mean you will win in a fight.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-28-2017

Tsalalas Vs Avocas again

MALAMALA TODAY: October 27th. The hot weather we experienced over the last few days seems a distant memory as the temperature dropped by 20*C and the rain rolled in. Lions: The 3 young males from the Marthly pride killed a buffalo in the Sand River north of Calabash Crossing. As darkness fell we noticed another lion cautiously approaching, it was one of the Avoca males. It took a long time for the 3 notice him and when they eventually did their response was measured... initially at least. We’ll have to wait and see what transpired over night. The Matshapiri male is still with 4 of the lionesses from the Kambula pride and surprising they were in central Charleston moving south and east. Reports from the Kruger informed us the Mantimahle males are close to our boundary in south eastern Charleston- the Matshapiri male will do well to avoid them.


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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-28-2017

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Last night guests were caught in the middle of a growling match between the Marthly males and one of the Avoca males.... After roaring at each other through the vehicle, the lions were left to their own devices for the night and were actually found still together this morning, unharmed. Pictured here is two of the three Marthly males.


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RE: Lions of sabi sands - T Rabbit - 10-29-2017

the 3 tsalalas and the avoca lost the kill to matshapiri and kambulas. but i think the tsalalas ate the most part of the kill.  the avoca male is alone. nobody said nothing about the status of the second avoca boy.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-29-2017

(10-29-2017, 05:09 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: the 3 tsalalas and the avoca lost the kill to matshapiri and kambulas. but i think the tsalalas ate the most part of the kill.  the avoca male is alone. nobody said nothing about the status of the second avoca boy.

Yup, They should not get separated in nomadic phase, difficult to survive/fend attacks from other dominant males

RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-29-2017

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Tsalalas Vs Avoca Vs ScarNose

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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-31-2017

The Bigger mane Tsalala/Marthly
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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-31-2017

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I quote Merle Shain as this is the epitome of life in the African bush among predators and as I addressed in last week’s TWIP, there have been a lot of changes in the predator dynamics at Londolozi. We are unsure as to whether the last of the Mashaba female’s cubs is still alive (outlook is bleak), the Nhlanguleni female shows signs of lactation and suckle marks; where is she keeping her cubs and how many does she have? Will these cubs make it to adulthood? Who will take over the deceased Piva male’s territory for good? Will it be the Inyathini Male or the Flat Rock male, or will there be an appearance from a new male leopard looking at establishing an altogether new territory for himself?
The most significant development that came about this week was the re-joining of one of the Tsalala cubs with the pride as well as the interesting, possible rekindled bond between two lioness sisters.
A few weeks ago the Tsalala pride was in a squabble with other lions (presumed Majingilane) and the younger adult lioness and one young female cub have not been seen since. Their fate becomes inevitable.
For some time the older tailed Tsalala lioness has been roaming Londolozi and its northern parts with 4 youngsters (2 older females, 1 older male and 1 younger male). While in a sighting of the Nanga female leopard in the north eastern parts of Marthly, the scene suddenly changed as the older Tsalala female appeared from a thicket, trailed by two cubs (two older females). The Nanga female sensed their presence before we even knew they were there and she took off in the opposite direction. All three lions looked well fed, blood on their faces indicative of them having recently made a kill. But there were only three in total. Where were the other two cubs?
Lions calling in the northern areas suggested they may have been interrupted by another pride getting wind of the kill they had been feeding on and rushed in to investigate, only once again to have a fight break out, steal the remains of their kill and possibly killed or at best, chased two of the cubs away while the others fled with the adult lioness.

Days went by with no sign, until one afternoon drive, trackers and rangers spotted a single male lion cub hobbling around a rocky outcrop in the Manyelethi River, a place he was familiar with, the place he was born. His condition was bad. He had clearly been in a fight with other lions. My theory mentioned above became more relevant and the possibility of the others being killed seemed quite likely. A further few days passed and there was no further sign of the male cub. Would he find the rest of the pride? His survival chances if he remained by himself were scant.

During this time we witnessed interesting behaviour of the adult Tsalala female; she was always seen in the presence of her Tailless sister from the Tsalala breakaway pride, yet getting too close to one another resulted in snarls. The younger adult female of the breakaway pride seemed most unhappy with the new presence of her mother. The Tsalala breakaway pride too had their share of difficulties with the recent loss of one of their 8 month old cubs – again possibly due to other lions.


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The old Tsalala female lying in close proximity to her daughter, sister (tailless female) and cub. These adult lions were once one pride before splitting into the Tsalala and Tsalala breakaway prides. Will they rejoin?

Over the next few drives it became a regular occurrence seeing the Tsalala Breakaways in the company of the older Tsalala female meters away. Was she attempting to rekindle the bond? Was she showing interest in joining forces and regrouping once again? This was all new for me as my time at Londolozi began with the already current separation of the two sisters – the Tsalala and Tsalala breakaway prides. So many questions have been going through the minds of many rangers and trackers. The separation of the two sisters occurred when the Majingilane male lion coalition broke them apart. The recent cubs of the Tsalala pride were fathered by the Matimba coalition and now the young 8 month old cub of the Tsalala breakaway pride was suspected to be fathered by the Majingilane coalition, but we don’t know for sure.
If these two prides were to re-join, what dynamics will pan out with the Majingilane males? Will they kill the Tsalala cubs or will the pride split once more? Every question begs five more.


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One of the Majingilane male lions rests atop Ximpalapala crest scanning his eyes over the dried grass into the distance. If the Tsalala and Tsalala breakaway pride rejoin will the three coalition members kill the Tsalala cubs that are not their own offspring?

An early morning drive on a cool rainy morning recently saw us cross the Sand River and explore the north of Londolozi in search of any sign of lions. The soil was damp and provided the perfect canvas for tracking animals that had moved through the night.

Tracker Bennet Mathonsi and I saw tracks of an adult female on Ximpalapala crest but no cub tracks. A few meters later there were signs of cub movements and a few hundred meters later there lay not two but three Tsalala lion cubs. The young male had re-joined and his condition had improved. Their bellies were full and blood on their faces proved they had fed during the night. Reports from other rangers who had found the Tsalala breakaway pride with older Tsalala female meters away mentioned how they too had blood on their faces that morning. Had these two prides fed on the same kill in the night? Were they rekindling their bond and would they re-join to form a single pride? Only anxious times lie ahead and we eagerly await what happens next and what each game drive holds.


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The younger Tsalala breakaway female snarls at her aunt (tailless female) as they climb a tree to steal the remains of an impala kill hoisted the previous day by the Mashaba female leopard.


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Earlier days of a new journey for the two new cubs birthed by the tailless female into the Tsalala breakaway pride. When they were four months old they still held the glossy blue haze to their eyes yet they were already feeding on meat.


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The cubs grew quickly, never leaving one another’s side. Unfortunately only one of them survives. Will the single remaining cub make it to adulthood?


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Old, worn canines and a weathered look, the last remaining adult female of the Tsalala pride walks to the Sand River. Is she searching for the younger adult female and single cub that have been missing for some time or is she in search of her sister from the Tsalala breakaway pride to rekindle the bond and hope to reform a single pride?

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The Tsalala pride of two adults and five cubs. The older female and three cubs remain. Will they join up with the Tsalala breakaway pride? Watch this space.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-31-2017

A Mhangeni Sub-Adult Male decides to stop for a pose.
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See those eyes.. Mini Hipscar


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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 10-31-2017

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The Mhangene pride killed two female Buffalo last night , we were lucky to still see some action with two of the young males still feeding.


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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 11-01-2017

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The Mhangene pride contiues to dominate the area and the young males are starting to get THAT look!


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RE: Lions of sabi sands - sik94 - 11-01-2017

MALAMALA TODAY: October 28th-30th. Over the last 3 days we’ve enjoyed sightings of 5 different male lion coalitions, 3 prides, 12 leopards and much more. Lions: On Saturday morning the 3 nomadic males from the Marthly pride were still feeding off their buffalo kill with a single Avoca male for company - they were ‘passively’ growling at each other. As far as we can tell nothing serious happened overnight. Whatever differences they had were put on hold when a Manyeleti male (scar nose) and 4 Kambula lionesses came barging in and, after a brief scuffle, took possession of the kill. The young males moved about 100m away before they settled down and continued growling at each other. The other 2 Kambula lionesses were near West Street Bridge. By daybreak on Sunday the Matshapiri male and 4 Kambula lionesses were on Sibuye Drive. The Manyeleti male was viewed just a few hundred meters away from them. One of the Gowrie males and the Styx pride had killed something near Wild Dog Rocks Open Area and we viewed them just lazing about. On Monday we found 3 of the cubs from the Marhtly pride near Stwise. It’s been a torrid time of late for this pride and the cubs were not looking good. The Styx pride have regrouped with their 4 young cubs south of the Nwana Nonantshemeni Donga. The Matshapiri male was seen with a kill west of Emsagwen Waterhole. The Avoca males have reunited and they were viewed in Toulon, as were the 3 nomadic males from the Marthly pride.

RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 11-03-2017

Three of the Marthly Male Lions and one Avoca male feeding at the same time on a buffalo kill.
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RE: Lions of sabi sands - vinodkumarn - 11-03-2017

The Dominant Tsalala/Marthly male B & W.Rattray's on MalaMala,August 2017.
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