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RE: Othawa Pride - Bellateda - 07-26-2022

It is already possible to tell their son apart.

It is sad that these cubs will most likely perish soon. They need a year more at least but PC males will kill them easily.


RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 07-26-2022

(07-26-2022, 02:56 PM)Bellateda Wrote: It is sad that  these cubs will most likely perish soon. They need a year more at least but PC males will kill them easily.

We cant know that.


RE: Othawa Pride - Duco Ndona - 07-26-2022

So far neither coalition has shown much interest in a takeover.. if the pride stays low they can survive. The Mhangeni prove this by keeping that cub alive for wel over a year now.


RE: Othawa Pride - Bellateda - 07-26-2022

Mhangeni lost so many cubs that thewir example is not the best. 

And to feed 5 subadults will be hard too.


RE: Othawa Pride - Duco Ndona - 07-26-2022

They dont need al 5 to survive. Just a few would be enough. Provided the male cub is not one of them.


RE: Othawa Pride - Tonpa - 07-26-2022

Features the young Othawa lioness aswell as the main pride trying to move away from the plains camp males







RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 07-26-2022

(07-26-2022, 06:15 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Features the young Othawa lioness aswell as the main pride trying to move away from the plains camp males

Thats the "game plan" from now on for Othawas, they will need to move a lot to not get caught up.

Othawas where in similar situation 2 yrs ago when Tumbelas came, although subs where bit older then and Tumbelas where not so aggressive in seeking them. 

But they need half a year more to buy time for these subs, Sassy wont leave them, im sure in that.


RE: Othawa Pride - Bellateda - 07-26-2022

6 months is a LOT. PC males can track them for weeks and caught up any time.

The pride has to hunt, to sleep somehow, to watch for other predators with constant threat on their tail...


And where will young subs go in a few months? The whole Western area is in turmoil.


RE: Othawa Pride - Duco Ndona - 07-26-2022

Or they just focus on the Mhangeni instead and ignore the pride entirely


RE: Othawa Pride - Rdliu2000 - 07-26-2022

(07-26-2022, 10:34 PM)Bellateda Wrote: 6 months is a LOT. PC males can track them for weeks and caught up any time.

The pride has to hunt, to sleep somehow, to watch for other predators with constant threat on their tail...


And where will young subs go in a few months? The whole Western area is in turmoil.

The PCs also need to hunt, sleep and protect territories and cubs with Nkuhumas, cannot be tracing all the time and ready for fighting. 

Othawas still have the option to breakaway and mate with PCs. And there is no strong territorial females around them. 


RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 07-26-2022

Othawa subs are old enough that can run away from big males, so PC males pretty much cant catch them, they can only disperse them.

Also, keep in mind that 90% of the time we dont know what is happening, especially at night, so PC males might invading and chasing Skorro and Othawas without us knowing it.


RE: Othawa Pride - BA0701 - 07-27-2022

The biggest thing the Othawa and Mangheni prides have in their favor is the elder lionesses, who have all been through this several times. They know what to do. If Tailess Tsalala taught us anything, it is that a smart and resilient lioness can ensure the cubs survival. Both the Mangheni and the Othawa prides have that in spades.


RE: Othawa Pride - afortich - 07-27-2022

(07-27-2022, 12:11 AM)BA0701 Wrote: The biggest thing the Othawa and Mangheni prides have in their favor is the elder lionesses, who have all been through this several times. They know what to do. If Tailess Tsalala taught us anything, it is that a smart and resilient lioness can ensure the cubs survival. Both the Mangheni and the Othawa prides have that in spades.

You're completely right. 
Below is a very interested video that supports your point. 
It is about a pride takeover in which the eldest lioness successfully gets the youngster ready to have a better chance in surviving on their own. Then, returned to the pride.







RE: Othawa Pride - BorntobeWild - 07-27-2022

(07-26-2022, 11:00 PM)Rdliu2000 Wrote:
(07-26-2022, 10:34 PM)Bellateda Wrote: 6 months is a LOT. PC males can track them for weeks and caught up any time.

The pride has to hunt, to sleep somehow, to watch for other predators with constant threat on their tail...


And where will young subs go in a few months? The whole Western area is in turmoil.

The PCs also need to hunt, sleep and protect territories and cubs with Nkuhumas, cannot be tracing all the time and ready for fighting. 

Othawas still have the option to breakaway and mate with PCs. And there is no strong territorial females around them. 
If I remember correctly, PC males once injured Othawa Auntie badly.  Not sure she would be interested in any of them.


RE: Othawa Pride - Duco Ndona - 07-27-2022

I recall that was the Tsalala lioness.

Not that such a history would matter. All male lions are abusive to a degree. It would sooner encourage the pride to seek them out as there is a very high chance they will be dominant soon.