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RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - Pckts - 07-26-2022
(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - abhisingh7 - 07-27-2022
(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - Pckts - 07-27-2022
(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - abhisingh7 - 07-28-2022
(07-27-2022, 01:30 AM)Pckts Wrote:2 year old sub-adults virat and pandit with their mother . yes some people on social media said these sub-adults were bigger than many males they saw in central india .virat now adult male , and pandit is dead .(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - Pckts - 07-28-2022
(07-28-2022, 03:29 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:Not sure about that, would depend on the male I’m sure.(07-27-2022, 01:30 AM)Pckts Wrote:2 year old sub-adults virat and pandit with their mother . yes some people on social media said these sub-adults were bigger than many males they saw in central india .virat now adult male , and pandit is dead .(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
Corbett Expert said Neela Nala was as large as any Male he’s seen in Corbett.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - abhisingh7 - 07-28-2022
(07-28-2022, 05:26 PM)Pckts Wrote:neela nala is big male in kanha , but these sub-adult brothers have dwarfed their mother by huge amount .(07-28-2022, 03:29 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:Not sure about that, would depend on the male I’m sure.(07-27-2022, 01:30 AM)Pckts Wrote:2 year old sub-adults virat and pandit with their mother . yes some people on social media said these sub-adults were bigger than many males they saw in central india .virat now adult male , and pandit is dead .(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
Corbett Expert said Neela Nala was as large as any Male he’s seen in Corbett.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - Pckts - 07-28-2022
(07-28-2022, 07:04 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:Their mother isn’t particularly big, large 2 year old males can be 200kg. So very likely these boys were around that range.(07-28-2022, 05:26 PM)Pckts Wrote:neela nala is big male in kanha , but these sub-adult brothers have dwarfed their mother by huge amount .(07-28-2022, 03:29 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:Not sure about that, would depend on the male I’m sure.(07-27-2022, 01:30 AM)Pckts Wrote:2 year old sub-adults virat and pandit with their mother . yes some people on social media said these sub-adults were bigger than many males they saw in central india .virat now adult male , and pandit is dead .(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
Corbett Expert said Neela Nala was as large as any Male he’s seen in Corbett.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - abhisingh7 - 07-29-2022
(07-28-2022, 03:29 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-27-2022, 01:30 AM)Pckts Wrote:2 year old sub-adults virat and pandit with their mother . yes some people on social media said these sub-adults were bigger than many males they saw in central india .virat now adult male , and pandit is dead .(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
huge resident male of bijrani
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - abhisingh7 - 08-13-2022
(07-29-2022, 11:25 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:huge sunderkhal maneater was most probably weighted .its said to be 10ft 6 inch long .(07-28-2022, 03:29 PM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-27-2022, 01:30 AM)Pckts Wrote:2 year old sub-adults virat and pandit with their mother . yes some people on social media said these sub-adults were bigger than many males they saw in central india .virat now adult male , and pandit is dead .(07-27-2022, 12:00 AM)abhisingh7 Wrote:(07-26-2022, 11:42 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:33 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 10:16 PM)Pckts Wrote:(07-26-2022, 09:56 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:(07-26-2022, 04:55 PM)Khan85 Wrote: Bheema 225 kg subadult (2.5 years old)
A 2.5 year old is a juvenile tiger. At that age he was almost 500 lbs. That means when he was a fully-grown mature male, he likely weighed between 240 - 300 kg.
Do you know how much he weighed as a full-grown adult?
He was never weighed as an adult unfortunately.
Kanha had quite a few big youngsters.
Its a shame that huge males like Bheema, Umarpani and Kingfisher and others were never weighed. Those are most definitely some tigers of very impressive weights.
Sharad Vats thought that if Umarpani (in his prime) had been weighed and measured, he would have broken some weight and size records.
You can get a good idea of his size based off of him compared to MV-2 who weighed 195kg.
My guess is between 250-280kg.
And garhi looked even bigger than uma , when they interacted .
Yeah, a little bit for sure but he suffers more weight loss similar to CM so depending on how you catch him he could fluctuate more while Uma seemed to be more dense year round.
huge resident male of bijrani.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - LonePredator - 08-20-2022
Hello @GuateGojira, how are you doing? There is something I would like to discuss about Madla from Panna, would you share your opinion with me on this?
So there is a lot of confusion about his weight, did he not exceed the 250kg scale?? Then why is his weight still stated as 230kg??
Do you think it’s really likely that he had 20kg+ stomach content? Especially when Chundawat even stated once that Madla was only PARTIALLY full and not really gorged.
From his pictures we can see that Madla was very similar in shape to the M-105 Sauraha male but was larger in dimensions, so how is it possible that a Tiger with almost the same shape as M-105 but larger dimensions weigh only 230kg while M-105 weighs 260-275kg?
Would a merely 230kg Tiger really break records? Madla had 7.5cm canines which is the highest known for any Tiger so should we really assume he was just 230kg even after all this??
Madla also did not really seem to have an unusually thick neck or anything, very similar in shape to M-105 but still his neck girth was 10cm higher so doesn’t it suggest that Madla was just isometrically larger than M-105 in terms of dimensions??
Isn’t 230kg common for male Bengal Tigers these days?? In all his descriptions this Tiger is stated to be ‘exceptional’ and even his actual weight of 250kg+ suggests he was an exceptional male so why is it pushed that he was just 230kg?
What do you think? Thanks!
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - acutidens150 - 08-21-2022
Is it true that the Siberian tiger averages 220 kg? Some person said WWF stated the average weight of Siberian tigers is of 220 kg. Should I consider this reliable or unreliable?
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - acutidens150 - 08-21-2022
Also, why is the maximum weight for Siberian tigers 254 kg (reliable hunting record) and the 320 kg tiger the record for largest Bengal tiger not included in chart while its reliable historic hunting record too?
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - LonePredator - 08-21-2022
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The largest male Amur was 254kg but there was another male Amur of 249kg but his body was in eviscerated condition and his real weight might’ve actually been upto 270kg so that 249kg Amur was probably larger than the 254kg one.
And 320kg and 318kg Bengals have also been recorded but Guate said that he decided not to include those males because they were exceptional.
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - acutidens150 - 08-22-2022
(08-21-2022, 08:06 PM)LonePredator Wrote: @acutidens150WWF website is not a reliable source of information. I have seen them present the same old unreliable information just like many other sources such as NatGeo. The only data we have are 23 modern Amurs and 12 Amurs from old records.
The largest male Amur was 254kg but there was another male Amur of 249kg but his body was in eviscerated condition and his real weight might’ve actually been upto 270kg so that 249kg Amur was probably larger than the 254kg one.
And 320kg and 318kg Bengals have also been recorded but Guate said that he decided not to include those males because they were exceptional.
Thanks
I'm thinking the tiger in bad condition you said (would have been 270 kgs, that one) was not included because only if it's weighed at 270, it'll be included? No estimates are used in charts?
RE: Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers - LonePredator - 08-22-2022
(08-22-2022, 06:35 AM)acutidens150 Wrote:(08-21-2022, 08:06 PM)LonePredator Wrote: @acutidens150WWF website is not a reliable source of information. I have seen them present the same old unreliable information just like many other sources such as NatGeo. The only data we have are 23 modern Amurs and 12 Amurs from old records.
The largest male Amur was 254kg but there was another male Amur of 249kg but his body was in eviscerated condition and his real weight might’ve actually been upto 270kg so that 249kg Amur was probably larger than the 254kg one.
And 320kg and 318kg Bengals have also been recorded but Guate said that he decided not to include those males because they were exceptional.
Thanks
I'm thinking the tiger in bad condition you said (would have been 270 kgs, that one) was not included because only if it's weighed at 270, it'll be included? No estimates are used in charts?
Yes, that’s right, the 249kg Tiger’s body was incomplete and it is estimated that his whole body intact might have weighed upto 270kg.
And because 270kg is just an estimate so it was not included in the table Guate made.