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RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - Polar - 02-25-2017 Is there a translated edition of it? RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - peter - 02-25-2017 Mods, Can you transfer the previous post (post 77) to the tiger extinction thread? I need it there in order to prevent clicking my way into oblivion. Thanks. Edit: Post has been shifted to Tiger Extinction thread : http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-on-the-edge-of-extinction-a-the-tiger-panthera-tigris?pid=36715#pid36715 It is reply of above post of Polar RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - Pckts - 04-20-2017 No idea if this true, but worth posting. Save The Sumatran Tiger (Raise Awareness) Not Sumatran, but if verified looks like a Javan Tiger has been caught on camera trap. https://twitter.com/mega_mbak/status/849470423683272704 RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - Rishi - 04-20-2017 (04-20-2017, 09:03 PM)Pckts Wrote: No idea if this true, but worth posting. Quote:HOT NEWS: Sight of Javan Tiger in Mt. Arjuno Went Viral I saw this pic quite a while back...Before I created my wildfact profile in January. But then this... http://m.viva.co.id/berita/nasional/790818-mencari-jejak-harimau-jawa-di-gunung-arjuno Any further info on the follow up camera trap expedition results..?? #FingersCrossed RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - phatio - 06-19-2017 (04-20-2017, 10:03 PM)Rishi Wrote:(04-20-2017, 09:03 PM)Pckts Wrote: No idea if this true, but worth posting. Unfortunately thats not true. the picture confirmed as a bengal tiger from Taman Safari Park in Pasuruan, East Java. Don't know why people like to spreading fake news nowadays. RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - phatio - 06-19-2017 As we all know the Javan tiger was never captured on colored pictures. in fact the only genuine wild Javan Tiger alive ever captured on camera is the one photographed by Andries Hoogerwerf in Ujung Kulon National Park, 1938. *This image is copyright of its original author Then what did this island tiger really look like in colored picture? Well we may never know as they were declared extinct fiew decades ago. So i try my best to colourizing this famous black and white picture and here's the result. *This image is copyright of its original author of course it can't be 100% accurate but i think it’s still interesting to imagine how Andries Hoogerwerf really saw in the jungle that lucky day. RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - sanjay - 06-19-2017 Incredible talent and well crafted. RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - Rishi - 06-20-2017 (06-19-2017, 06:58 PM)phatio Wrote: As we all know the Javan tiger was never captured on colored pictures. in fact the only genuine wild Javan Tiger alive ever captured on camera is the one photographed by Andries Hoogerwerf in Ujung Kulon National Park, 1938. It's nearly 100% accurate... just some identifiable scrubs/grass (green) & dry leaves (dust brown) on the ground are left.... RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - peter - 06-20-2017 Well done, Phatio. Based on what I saw and read, the ground colour could have been even darker. Same for the stripes (very black). The reason of outspoken colours could be a combination of climate (colours often seem more intense in the tropics, possibly partly as a result of the powerful sun), low but dense forest with many trees of smallish size and bamboo (resulting in narrow and very black shades, especially in the night) and the habit to hunt in twilight and early morning. RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera sondaica) - phatio - 08-16-2017 (06-20-2017, 06:18 AM)peter Wrote: Well done, Phatio. Yup, that's exactly what i thought Peter. after I had finished it I realized that the tiger's ground colour is way brighter than it should be. so i try to colouring another black and white photo and this time i give the dead male javan tiger a darker coat. well it was harder than I thought but but it was worth a try. *This image is copyright of its original author Another specimen, this time the coloured photo is not my work, its from another member from javan tiger facebook community. i think he did a great job as the tigress from Malimping Banten West Java here looks better than my work *This image is copyright of its original author
RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica) - Diamir2 - 09-23-2017 Java Tiger - Banteng Udjung Kulon: The Land of the Last Javan Rhinoceros : A. Hoogerwerf https://books.google.ru/books?id=pc4UAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Udjung+Kulon:The+Land+of+the+Last+Javan+rhinoceros+Hoogerwerf+banteng+tiger&hl=ru&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJveK3x7nWAhWDJ5oKHedRBbAQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Udjung%20Kulon%3AThe%20Land%20of%20the%20Last%20Javan%20rhinoceros%20Hoogerwerf%20banteng%20tiger&f=false http://diamtiger.blogspot.ru/ *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author
RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica) - Rishi - 05-27-2018 Was the "Bali Tiger" ever even an actual thing? Were there any genetic studies to ascertain their subspecies status, like it happened with the Malayan tigers? The isles of Java & Bali are separated from each other by only a narrow straight, less then 2km wide at its narrowest today! *This image is copyright of its original author This is how close Bali is to Java... *This image is copyright of its original author There's a strong possibility that the two were connected until the last Ice Age ended 10k years ago. Isn't that little time not enough to develop into a completely new subspecies? Also that should have been crossably narrow at low-tide in historical times. Could it be that Bali tigers were to Java tigers, merely what Sundarban tigers are to Bengal tigers? RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica) - Wolverine - 12-30-2018 Bali tigers: *This image is copyright of its original author
RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica) - sanjay - 12-30-2018 We are missing @phatio . Where are you buddy ? RE: The Java Tiger (Panthera tigris sondaica) - GuateGojira - 12-30-2018 (05-27-2018, 05:01 AM)Rishi Wrote: Was the "Bali Tiger" ever even an actual thing? Were there any genetic studies to ascertain their subspecies status, like it happened with the Malayan tigers? There is no doubt that tiger do lived in Bali, but its "subspecies" status and its claimed size is very doubtfull. To be honest, we only know 5 skulls of female specimens (one is even a subadult - Senckenberg Museum No. 2576) and 3 males, togheter with a few skins that do not represent the real size of the previous owner. Measurements from hunters gathered by Sody suggest animals of the same size than those of the other islands (excluding the 300 cm specimen, which is an exageration or a skin measurement). In fact, there is no good information to claim that the Bali tiger was so small as Mazák suggested. We must remember that there are no real measurements from Bali tigers except from the large Gondol male, which was of the same size that an Sumatran/Javan tiger, its skull fits very well with the other populations. Also, if we check the size of the specimens hunted in litterature, they are not small at all, they match the size of the Sumatra/Java male tigers, again. Give me time and I promises that today I will post all the information about the size and DNA studies of the Bali tiger that I have. |