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RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Tshokwane - 12-01-2015
Rekero Camp:
The 3 musketeers spent the better part of the lying like a pancake...with full belly from the Hippo kill few miles west of Rekero camp...photo credits onesmus
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*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Tshokwane - 12-05-2015
Rekero Camp:
Happy to see the boyz together again..photo credits onesmus...
4KM Males, together once more. Blackie is the one on the front, Lipstick in the back.
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Onesmus Ole Irungu:
A man in deep thought...
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RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - sanjay - 12-07-2015
A bad news coming for Marsh Pride
We can confirm reports that some members of the famous Marsh Pride ingested poison on the carcas of a cow probably just outside the Masai Mara National Reserve on the night of Saturday 5th December 2015. Our guides immediately mobilised veterinary teams from the Kenya Wildlife Service and the David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust and a team of Rangers from the Narok County Goverment were quickly in attendance. One sub-adult male was treated on Sunday afternoon and one female, Bibi, died this morning. Our vehicles have remained with the affected sub adult male for the last 36 hours. We are still searching for 3 members of the Pride but since the Pride is so large and their territory covers such a big area it could be that they are perfectly well and holed up somewhere. The County Government Rangers have responded vigorously and professionally and apprehended 3 individuals yesterday evening. They are expected to be charged in Court in Narok today. In addition, patrols and mitigation measures have been stepped up. We will bring you more information as we have it. This pride is very special to us and we are doing everything we can to help
Credit to: fb page of Marsh pride of lions
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - sanjay - 12-07-2015
News update:
On Sunday morning at 8.00am Patrick Reynolds of Governors Camp in the Masai Mara received a call that some of the lions from the famous Marsh Pride were acting strangely collapsing and suffering from spasms. Patrick immediately called the DSWT funded Mara Mobile Veterinary Unit headed by KWS Veterinary officer Dr. Limo who were on the scene by 11.30am.
Dr. Limo, confirmed that up to five lions had suffered from ingesting a poison of some description including a 2 year old sub adult male whose mother is Sienna, the lioness we have successfully treated for severe injuries on a number of occasions. Sienna remains unaccounted for, while the 2 year old son has responded well to treatment and is looking brighter today, having been guarded all night to keep him safe from Hyenas as he recuperated.
Dr. Limo began treating the lions yesterday and today the DSWT is flying in emergency supplies of Atropine Sulphate, an additional helpful antidote for poisoning. Tragically one older lioness from the Marsh Pride has died as a result of this poisoning incident and the Mara Veterinary Team is back on site today treating some more lions from the pride.
KWS report that three people have been arrested in connection with the poisoning of the lions. Being an endangered species, if found guilty, the three could face fines of $200,000 or life imprisonment.
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RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - TheLioness - 12-07-2015
Oh no such sad news for Bibi, hopefully no other lions were poisoned that they haven't found yet, glad to see the quick response!
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - lioncrazy - 12-07-2015
That is just ridiculous can't belive anyone would do that very upsetting
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Pckts - 12-07-2015
(12-07-2015, 10:06 PM)TheLioness Wrote: Oh no such sad news for Bibi, hopefully no other lions were poisoned that they haven't found yet, glad to see the quick response!
Actually a few others were poisoned as well, I think a confirmed 2 have been lost thus far. But others were treated and doing better, a 2 year old male is one of them who were treated. I'll look up the info and post it in a minute.
Edit:
Here you go
We don't have words for this..
Our Bibi is no more ;( RIP Bibi.(1998-2015)
Marsh pride lions has been poisoned.
Photo taken by Mark MacEwen
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"RIP Bibi! BIBI was horrifically and painfully poisoned by local Maasai people after the pride killed one of their cows.
A second lion is also thought to have died and 5 more in critical condition.
The Maasai's wealth and livelihood is dependent on their cattle. The future of our planet is dependent on wildlife having a place and a home.
We must find a solution to the human/ wildlife conflict.
Bibi - you were a legendary lioness, possibly the oldest in the Masai Mara. You brought forth many of the generation we see today.
Your death is tragic and I am so so sad your beautiful spirit is no longer with us...
(these pics are from Thanksgiving 2015 when I last had the privilege to be in her presence).
Moses Manduku Mamai John Mohammed Billow Lucy Block"
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20151207-famous-lion-found-poisoned?ocid=fbert
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Sully - 12-08-2015
Wow, Bibi is gone, as well Red in 2010, is white eye still alive?
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Pckts - 12-08-2015
(12-08-2015, 12:58 AM)SVTIGRIS Wrote: Wow, Bibi is gone, as well Red in 2010, is white eye still alive?
Silver Eye?
From the Lone Lion doc?
She died last year unfortunately or early this year. I forget exactly when
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Sully - 12-08-2015
@Pckts she was/is a lioness in the marsh pride
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Tshokwane - 12-08-2015
A nice article from Jonathan and Angela Scott about what happened, how this affects the wildlife, the lions, both prides and coalitions and what needs to be done:
The Marsh Lions: End Of An Era
December 7th, 2015
Our feet had barely touched home on Kenyan soil last night when we heard the sad news of the poisoning of members of the Marsh Pride – the lions that we have followed since 1977 and were the stars of our book The Marsh Lions (1982 updated 2012) co-authord with Brian Jackman. Brian and his wife Annabelle joined us this past September for a safari to celebrate nearly forty years of lion watching in the Masai Mara with a week long stay at Governor’s Private Camp – and Elephant Pepper Camp in the Mara North Conservancy (MNC). MNC is the location of Fig Tree Ridge and Leopard Gorge where Chui the leopard roamed in the late 1970s and early 1980s – the same female leopard I wrote about in The Leopard’s Tale (1985 updated in 2013). Fig Tree Ridge was the site of a proposed tourist development a few years ago that we lobbied hard to stop given its importance as a breeding site for leopards.
We could have said ‘shocking news’ in regard to the fate of the Mash Pride – but there is nothing shocking anymore as to what is happening in the Masai Mara. Tens of thousands of cattle encroach in to the Reserve every night when visitors are safely out of sight – but when the likelihood of conflict with predators such as lions and hyenas is at its greatest. This makes no sense. The Masai Mara is after all a national reserve and of vital importance to the Masai, the nation and the international community. This sorry state of affairs is testimony to the appalling management of the Reserve, a situation that has existed for many, many years; certainly for at least as long as I have known the Masai Mara. Lets not forget the precipitous decline in the Mara’s black rhino population that saw it plummet from an estimated 150-200 in the 1960s to just 11 by 1983 (it has risen again to between 30 and 40).
Our base in the Mara is a stone cottage at Governor’s Camp, home to the glorious Musiara Marsh after which the Marsh Lions were named. The Marsh is the heart of the Marsh Pride’s dry season territory, while to the east the intermittent watercourse known as Bila Shaka is the traditional breeding site and resting place for the pride. But that all changed when the authorities decided to turn a blind eye to the incursion of cattle in to the reserve, forcing the lions to move out or risk death. The Marsh Pride have always been vulnerable due to their being a boundary pride – their territory spreads beyond the reserve boundary. This is particularly apparent in the wet season when Musiara Marsh (and Bila Shaka at times) becomes waterlogged and the lions move to higher ground to north and east. Each year we lose lions to poisoning or spearing by pastoralists – that was always part of life for the lions. But in the last few years the situation has escalated beyond all reason with the Marsh Pride becoming increasingly fragmented by the influx of cattle and herdsmen.
The BBC filmed the hugely popular TV series Big Cat Diary in Marsh Pride territory from 1996 to 2008. The foundation of the series was that we always knew that we could find lions, leopards and cheetahs in the area on a daily basis. The Marsh Pride were at the heart of the series – they virtually never let us down – along with the leopards Half-Tail, Zawadi (Shadow) and Bella – and the cheetahs Queen (Amber), Kike, Honey, Toto and Honey’s Boys. Today it would be impossible to film Big Cat Diary in the same location – how damming a fact is that. Each year Governor’s Camp outfitted a special tented camp for us along the Mara River just upstream from Main Camp. The impact of livestock is all to apparent; this year the Musiara area looked like a desert and each night you could see dozens of flickering torches as the cattle were driven in to the Reserve after dark. Huge herds of cattle would camp during the daytime along the boundary of the reserve waiting for the tourists to head in to camp. The deep tracks leading into the reserve are testament to that along with piles of cattle dung scattered deep inside it. And the Musiara area is not alone. Guides from other parts of the Mara have been talking about this situation for years. But nobody seems to be able to do anything about it.
And what of the Marsh Pride. Earlier in the year a break-away group of young Marsh Pride females with young cubs were forced to cross the Mara River and set up home in the Kichwa Tembo area, while the oldest females – Bibi (17), Sienna (11) and Charm (11) – and their cubs increasingly avoided Bila Shaka and the Marsh, loitering at the fringes of their traditional territory, forced to encroach on neighbouring prides. They are often to be found up on Rhino Ridge or even down on to Paradise Plain or along the river. How many lions have died as a result of the latest incident is still unclear.
One reason that the Marsh Pride males such as Clawed and Romeo – and more recently Scarface and the Musketeers (four in all) – are able to remain as pride males for so many years – four years or more – is due to a decline in the number of young nomadic male lions to replace them. In the past it was not uncommon to see groups of five or six young nomadic males roaming the Musiara or Paradise area together. I have counted as many as nine traveling as a group. That was a sign of a healthy lion population with lots of dispersing sub-adults. In the past pride males often only managed a tenure of 2 years – sometimes less – before being forced out of their pride by younger or more powerful rivals. The scarcity of these nomadic males tends to make us believe that they are not surviving as well as in the past. That would fit with the kind of disturbance that lions are facing on a nightly basis in parts of the Mara from livestock and herdsmen. Lions are going to kill livestock if it comes within range – and of course they will sometimes kill livestock outside the reserve and must bear the consequences when they do. The only way to prevent this happening is if there is enough incentive to persuade the herdsmen that lions equate to tourists – and that means a financial return.
And that is the key point. Many Masai do not think of the Masai Mara Reserve as a source of income. The often feel that it is unfair that wildlife is allowed to share their pastures and sometimes kill their livestock but that they are not allowed to reciprocate by bringing livestock in to the Reserve during dry times. This is particularly the case given that the Masai have roamed these areas for hundreds of years, long before the area was given official protection. Understandably the Masai claim the Mara as their own. The authorities urgently need to address this issue by ensuring that everyone benefits from tourism to the Mara in a truly tangible way. There will be no safe place for the Marsh Lions until the reserve authorities decide to address all of the issues that have been debated ever since I first came to live in the Mara in 1977 – namely: equitable distribution of revenue to the local community; a moratorium on any further tourism development in the reserve; an embargo on grazing of livestock inside the reserve. While adopting a rotational system of grazing in wildlife conservancies created from private land surrounding the reserve to address the issue of how to harmonize pastoralism with wildlife, allowing the wholesale influx of tens of thousands of cattle to encroach within the reserve each night is not an equitable solution.
What a miracle it would be if the demise of the Marsh Pride became the catalyst for serious dialogue and change as to how the Masai Mara is managed. The Governor of Narok County, the Honorable Samuel Ole Tunai, pledged to do just that when he called a Masai Mara Stakeholders Meeting in Nairobi in September 2015. I attended that meeting and was impressed by the number of people who made the effort to come along. Since then a small group of concerned individuals drawn from all walks of life have worked to support the Governor’s initiative. We can only hope that we are about to witness tangible steps towards fulfilling expectations ago.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - LionKiss - 12-08-2015
I feel sorry for the people of the local community who lost their cows but poisoning the Lion who killed the cow is not going to have any effect on other Lions.
The Lions will attack again and again because they are wild animals.
RIP Bibi
it is outrageous to kill the entire pride because they killed a stupid cow,
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Tshokwane - 12-09-2015
Mara Lion Project:
Marsh Lions
Below is an update on the Marsh lions, since it appears there is some misinformation on the internet.
As of today (07th December), only one lion has been confirmed dead, Bibi, the oldest of the pride. A post-mortem was conducted mid-afternoon by a KWS veterinarian in the presence of the authorities.
Yesterday (06th December) we found 10 of the Marsh lions. They were incredibly nervous and many were uncoordinated. The KWS mobile veterinary team were attending to them. One young male (Siena’s cub) was in particularly bad condition and was remotely administered with some an anti-inflammatory and later with atropine. It appears that he is in much better condition today and returned to the larger group.
Since the incident, all other pride members have been accounted for apart from Sienna, but there are a lot of people searching. Charm was with the larger group and appears to be recovering.
This is obviously a very upsetting issue and we are assisting wherever needed. This incident highlights the plight of lions not just in the Mara, but in Africa generally. Wherever there is livestock and predators conflict does occur, whether this is in Africa, Europe, Asia or the Americas. We at the Mara Lion Project are striving to understand and overcome these age old issues.
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - LionKiss - 12-09-2015
what will happen to Sienna's cubs? are the other Lionesses going to protect them? what happens usually in cases like this?
the cubs belong to the same pride, right?
in this video says that Sienna gave birth to 3 cubs back in the beginning of 2014
RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - sanjay - 12-09-2015
This is sad update from The David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust
Update - Marsh Pride Lions
This morning KWS Vet Dr. Limo, who operates from the DSWT funded Mara Mobile Veterinary Unit, was forced to make the difficult decision to euthanize Alan, the sub adult male cub of Charm. Alan had been recuperating from poisoning and his health was being monitored, however overnight he was badly aggressed by a herd of buffalo and the injuries sustained were too severe for any hope of a successful outcome in the informed opinion of Dr. Limo. Thus, the very sad decision was taken to euthanize him to cease any further suffering. An autopsy revealed multiple serious wounds to the lungs and liver, along with a multitude of other injuries, which had made saving him impossible.
Sienna remains unaccounted for and we are forced to assume that she was the lion whose remains were reported to have been found, as she has never before been absent from the pride for this length of time. Sienna had healed well from her most recent veterinary treatment by the Mara Vet Unit, as evidenced in this photograph taken at the end of October, by Moses Manduku, where she is tackling a buffalo.
Sienna had overcome insurmountable odds on many occasions, but devastatingly, her story does not appear to have a happy ending.
I am very upset with this news, Never thought of such popular lion pride will leave us like this
.