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RE: Amur tigers - Pckts - 06-02-2014
Ya, but if he is 16 then muscle deterioration is definitely going to happen.
RE: Amur tigers - Amnon242 - 06-04-2014
(06-02-2014, 09:18 PM)Pckts Wrote: Ya, but if he is 16 then muscle deterioration is definitely going to happen.
Exactly...this is typical for old felids
RE: Amur tigers - GuateGojira - 06-04-2014
According with Slaght et al. (2005), captive Amur tigers begin to loss body shape since the 12-14 years old, although the heaviest male that they accepted as reliable (captive one, 248 kg) was over 15 years old.
This could be the case in the wild too, although males like "Dale" (Pt-20) weighed more at its 12 years old than when it was between 5-6 years old.
RE: Amur tigers - GrizzlyClaws - 06-04-2014
(06-04-2014, 08:38 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: According with Slaght et al. (2005), captive Amur tigers begin to loss body shape since the 12-14 years old, although the heaviest male that they accepted as reliable (captive one, 248 kg) was over 15 years old.
This could be the case in the wild too, although males like "Dale" (Pt-20) weighed more at its 12 years old than when it was between 5-6 years old.
Does this mean that Baikal was even heavier when he was younger? Since he still weighed about 850 pounds at the age of 12 back in 2009.
RE: Amur tigers - Pckts - 06-04-2014
(06-04-2014, 09:43 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:(06-04-2014, 08:38 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: According with Slaght et al. (2005), captive Amur tigers begin to loss body shape since the 12-14 years old, although the heaviest male that they accepted as reliable (captive one, 248 kg) was over 15 years old.
This could be the case in the wild too, although males like "Dale" (Pt-20) weighed more at its 12 years old than when it was between 5-6 years old.
Does this mean that Baikal was even heavier when he was younger? Since he still weighed about 850 pounds at the age of 12 back in 2009.
It's definitely possible. But I would bet weight variation in Captive tigers is far less drastic compared to their wild counterparts. In the wild, you can probably catch the same tiger in 4 different years at the same time of the year, and probably have 4 very different weights. To many factors come in to play that captive animals will never have to deal with.
RE: Amur tigers - GrizzlyClaws - 06-04-2014
(06-04-2014, 10:12 PM)'Pckts' Wrote:(06-04-2014, 09:43 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:(06-04-2014, 08:38 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: According with Slaght et al. (2005), captive Amur tigers begin to loss body shape since the 12-14 years old, although the heaviest male that they accepted as reliable (captive one, 248 kg) was over 15 years old.
This could be the case in the wild too, although males like "Dale" (Pt-20) weighed more at its 12 years old than when it was between 5-6 years old.
Does this mean that Baikal was even heavier when he was younger? Since he still weighed about 850 pounds at the age of 12 back in 2009.
It's definitely possible. But I would bet weight variation in Captive tigers is far less drastic compared to their wild counterparts. In the wild, you can probably catch the same tiger in 4 different years at the same time of the year, and probably have 4 very different weights. To many factors come in to play that captive animals will never have to deal with.
The aging wild tigers will always lose a lot of weight, or for some others is the critical injuries that causes it to lose more condition.
Baikal in his 16 already looked a lot of different from his 12, his hind legs are now much more deteriorated and weaker.
RE: Amur tigers - Apollo - 06-05-2014
(06-04-2014, 09:43 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:(06-04-2014, 08:38 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: According with Slaght et al. (2005), captive Amur tigers begin to loss body shape since the 12-14 years old, although the heaviest male that they accepted as reliable (captive one, 248 kg) was over 15 years old.
This could be the case in the wild too, although males like "Dale" (Pt-20) weighed more at its 12 years old than when it was between 5-6 years old.
Does this mean that Baikal was even heavier when he was younger? Since he still weighed about 850 pounds at the age of 12 back in 2009.
Baikal at 12 yo is definitely out of his prime.
Tigers in general at optimal conditions will be in its best shape and size at their prime.
So its highly possible that Baikal could have had higher muscle mass and body mass at its prime.
RE: Amur tigers - GrizzlyClaws - 06-05-2014
(06-05-2014, 05:50 AM)'Apollo' Wrote:(06-04-2014, 09:43 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:(06-04-2014, 08:38 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: According with Slaght et al. (2005), captive Amur tigers begin to loss body shape since the 12-14 years old, although the heaviest male that they accepted as reliable (captive one, 248 kg) was over 15 years old.
This could be the case in the wild too, although males like "Dale" (Pt-20) weighed more at its 12 years old than when it was between 5-6 years old.
Does this mean that Baikal was even heavier when he was younger? Since he still weighed about 850 pounds at the age of 12 back in 2009.
Baikal at 12 yo is definitely out of his prime.
Tigers in general at optimal conditions will be in its best shape and size at their prime.
So its highly possible that Baikal could have had higher muscle mass and body mass at its prime.
I think so, since his body dimension is almost identical to the largest fossil specimen of the Ngandong tiger.
The largest fossil specimen was calculated by tigerluver at around 900 pounds, so this should also be the weight of Baikal during his prime.
New captured footage of the Amur tiger - GrizzlyClaws - 06-16-2014
A wild Amur tiger was caught in footage by the Chinese fishermen in a river border between China and North Korea.
RE: New captured footage of the Amur tiger - Apollo - 06-16-2014
Nice video.
TFS
RE: New captured footage of the Amur tiger - sanjay - 06-16-2014
Great Footage. Incredible stamina
RE: New captured footage of the Amur tiger - sanjay - 06-16-2014
Here is the detail, I found about this video
Two Chinese fishermen operating in a northeast China got a fright when animal year they thought was a dear turned out to be a rare Siberian tiger.
The fishermen were travelling on a river which borders Russia's Far East region when they saw an animal in the water.
Thinking it was a roe deer, they drove their boat towards the animal but did not realise it was a tiger until the large cat-like animal grabbed on the boat with its claws and roared at them.
"I was standing on the boat, looking at the animal without knowing what it was," says Zhang Mingyu, one of the fishermen.
"The animal turned around its head and roared at us. It was frightening as it sounded like a tiger. It really scared me.
"The tiger swam nearer and put its claws on our boat, and I was so scared by the move that I ran to the stern." My brother said we shouldn't let the tiger onto the boat, so we pushed it back into water, with a pole."
Once they'd pushed the tiger back into the water one of the fishermen recorded the tiger swimming away with his mobile phone.
The tiger eventually reached the river bank and soon ran into the jungle, leaving paw prints behind, on the sandy river bank.
Advertisement The fishermen suggested that more one tiger might be hiding in the jungle as they found another group of tiger's paw prints on another location of the jungle island.
The Siberian tiger is the largest tiger species in the world. The sighting by the Chinese fishermen marks the first time the big cat species has been spotted in the area.
RE: New captured footage of the Amur tiger - Pckts - 06-16-2014
"The Siberian tiger is the largest tiger species in the world"
No its not. [img]images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Amazing footage BTW, thanks for sharing.
RE: Amur tigers - Jubatus - 06-26-2014
(04-25-2014, 08:56 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: New record for the Amur tiger:
Thanks to TheLioness, this new record of 212 kg is reported by The Amur Tiger Programme:
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This male of about seven years know as Luk is now the heaviest male on record in the Amur region. When he was less than 3 years, he weighed 150 kg.
Also, she show me this page: http://www.tendua.org/2,002/reports,008/with-love-from-the-amur-tiger,087.html
Here are the measurements of the previous heaviest Amur tiger on record (207 kg), which aparently, was still not fully grow, maybe just above de 3-4 years, check the image:
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Check these canines, they are still white and measured 5.6 cm:
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Here we can see that he has no stomach content:
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Finally, the male been weighed:
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Interesting, the tigers in this region, at the south of Prymore, are slightly heavier than those of Sikhote-Alin area. Besides, the morphology of the young Banzai, at the moment of its capture, resemble more those of the Bengal tigers than those of the Amur. Now, 3 years latter, he is probably much larger and heavier, maybe as much as Luk. Check his image at 2013:
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Here is Luk, at 2013, probably also slightly over 212 kg:
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New table about male tigers will be made, the results were posted soon. [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Hi
Do you know if Luk was adjustet for stomach content?
RE: Amur tigers - Jubatus - 06-27-2014
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Two Male Amur Tigers from a norwegian zoo. Both Weighing over 200 kgs