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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - RookiePundit - 01-01-2022

(01-01-2022, 06:43 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I don't think that sub adult would have left Gingerella by his own choice after trailing her from all the way to Kruger. Or would have ran straight back to Kruger. 
Most likely he would have stayed close until being chased of by the Tumbellas and started roaming around on his own afterwards. 
If he lived long afterwards, he would have been seen, just like any other nomadic male. But I guess he died not long after. 
There are plenty of dangers in the wild that don't involve other lions. In any case, he hasnt been seen for months now.

I have no doubt that the Tumbellas can hold of the PC males. They dont seem confident enough to take on male lions, including the singular lions like Nym or DM avoca. 
But there is always a chance of them running into a lone lioness or cub.

I agree. As we assume a lot with others, he is ofc technically missing, but I consider him perished. But we never know with lions that is the only truth.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Duco Ndona - 01-01-2022

Perhaps the wound was too small to kill him instantly or grew larger later?

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Wyld@Heart - 01-01-2022

(01-01-2022, 07:04 PM)RookiePundit Wrote: I agree. As we assume a lot with others, he is ofc technically missing, but I consider him perished. But we never know with lions that is the only truth.

I think it's worth noting the vastness of the Kruger itself. We are spoiled by the fact that it is like almost no other park in Africa due to its extensive road networks that are accessible to any vehicle, the private concessions that traverse these same roads and their own, the relative ease of accessibility that allows privately safari vehicles to be operated as a business from the towns outside the park and the sighting apps that share sightings on a daily basis. 

It's not quite the same detail coming out of the Sabi Sands but then it is almost 20 times bigger and the sheer wealth of information that we can glean means we are generally spoilt but at the same time we should remember that there are blocks in the Kruger with no concessions, no roads and almost no human activity apart from ranger and anti-poaching units. Some of these blocks, even in the busy Southern section from Tshokwane downwards rival the entire Sabi Sands in size.

There is a natural bottleneck between the Sabi Sands and Southern Kruger running basically from Kirkman's (I would say) to Lion Sands. This is the unfenced  southern boundary between SS and KNP but once you run that gauntlet the entire southern Kruger is wide open to get lost in. For example, just south of Skukuza, the block between the upper H4-1, S114, S21 and back up the H4-1 is by my estimate approximately 280 Sq km. If we use the S21 as the northern boundary of the next block, then the H4-1 to H4-2 to the Gomondwane waterhole as the eastern boundary then the H5 to S114 back to S21 as the other then you're looking at another 300 Sq km. Look at the two together with those roads as boundaries as one block then you have an area almost the size of the SS traversed by just one road and with no private concessions either, the S21. I've used this block as an example as it's in relatively close proximity to the SS, in a straight line maybe 10km at most and you're across both the Sand and Sabie Rivers and into it and in a vast wilderness almost completely untouched by human activity on a regular basis. 

There are numerous other blocks like this in Southern Kruger; between the H1-1 and S1. Between the H1-1 and the Voortrekker Road and then an area bigger than the SS south of that where only Sanparks have their Wolhuter and Bushman's Wilderness Trails. It's incredible when you think of it, and when you're there seeing it stretch on seemingly endlessly. I think with males, in particular and as has happened, there are going to be cases where they pass out of knowledge and into an area that they are unlikely to come out from especially if they thrive.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Potato - 01-01-2022

That PC males are starting to move around more, doesn't mean they are abandoning Nkuchuma females. Northern Singita is very small arena for a male coalition so it is natural and expected that PC males will be trying to aquire much more land around if possible.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-01-2022

Looks like 3rd Talamati young male showed up (if thats indeed him), he was seen in company of Imbali male :

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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-01-2022

Step-dad saves the day?

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-01-2022

Hmmm, is it? Or just one of his sons 


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-01-2022

(01-01-2022, 10:46 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Hmmm, is it? Or just one of his sons 


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Not sure, in description he says Talamati young male.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Duco Ndona - 01-01-2022

The PC males were accompanied by two Nkuhumas. So that suggests are still interested in them.

Atleast, I read it but dont believe it.

Its worth noting that that sub got lost in western sector. Not in Kruger.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - abbeyster - 01-02-2022

(10-21-2021, 03:08 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Saw that the photographer mentioned they are both in the north west section of Ulusaba

Hello,

I was looking for the picture of the two lionesses, Ximhungwe and Gingerella? do you know if it was taken down?

Theresa

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-02-2022

(01-02-2022, 12:57 AM)abbeyster Wrote:
(10-21-2021, 03:08 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Saw that the photographer mentioned they are both in the north west section of Ulusaba

Hello,

I was looking for the picture of the two lionesses, Ximhungwe and Gingerella? do you know if it was taken down?

Theresa

The initial sighting was a short video of two lionesses sitting together, not sure if it was taken down, I'm banned from the Othawa pride group so can't see lol 

but if you want pictures of the two girls together, scroll through Diff Marimanes instagram, he has some 





RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - sik94 - 01-02-2022

(01-01-2022, 10:25 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Step-dad saves the day?

haha

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-02-2022

is it the young wonky eye/blind male from the Manyeleti? 


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-02-2022

(01-02-2022, 02:50 AM)Tonpa Wrote: is it the young wonky eye/blind male from the Manyeleti? 


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You might be right, looks like him. 

He was even before seen in company of Imbali male.

I guess it was false hope that its 3rd Talamati.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Mdz123 - 01-02-2022

(01-02-2022, 02:50 AM)Tonpa Wrote: is it the young wonky eye/blind male from the Manyeleti? 


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Does look like the same guy, they both have that big scar on their foreheads