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RE: Nkuhlu males - Ngonya - 12-07-2024
(12-07-2024, 04:47 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I dont see any injuries around his back.
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its quite small but looks like one of those spine bites to me
and yeah as Potato says author claims there were injuries to his hindlegs.
Another Nkuhlu male was byhimself in MalaMala, they seem a bit scattered. Hopefully can get something on the others soon
RE: Nkuhlu males - Duco Ndona - 12-07-2024
They might just not be visible from that angle.
RE: Nkuhlu males - Mapokser - 12-07-2024
It seems like the injuries are minor. Although Gijimas have not killed other males, all of the ones they have attacked were seriously injured, so seeing ST so good after being caught on Gijima territory is interesting.
Nkuhlu and Gijima might be the greatest coalition rivalry I've seen in terms of sheer number of encounters between them.
I've literally lost count.
- 5 nomadic Nkuhlu + Delaporte challenging Gijimas, 1h of back ans forth until Gijimas chased them off;
- Gijimas bump onto 5 Nkuhlu, almost go for the chase before realizing they were against 5, then they run and Nkhulu give chase;
- Gijima chase 3 Nkuhlu and steal their Sand River female;
- 4 Nkuhlu chase Gijima from their territory until LM Gijima turns to attack them, they chase Nkuhlu to MalaMala who chases them back;
- Gijima catch ST Nkuhlu now.
These were the clashes I remember out of my head but I might be forgetting a clash or two.
Edit: Yeah, forgot Gijimas chasing LM Gijima and maybe LM Gijima chased some of them once too, or was it Charleston sons, I can't remember.
RE: Nkuhlu males - Ngonya - 12-08-2024
4 Nkuhlu males at Sabi Sand
"3/5 Nkhulu brothers, the first one mating with a Southern Pride lioness, the second still recovering from his recent beating, but noticable improving, the third looking fit and well. One other was around too and the 5th not seen."
Dreadlocks - Nkuhlu #3
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Snip Tail - Nkuhlu #2
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Crooked Tail - #5
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RE: Nkuhlu males - Rui Ferreira - 12-08-2024
(12-08-2024, 08:04 PM)Ngonya Wrote: 4 Nkuhlu males at Sabi Sand
"3/5 Nkhulu brothers, the first one mating with a Southern Pride lioness, the second still recovering from his recent beating, but noticable improving, the third looking fit and well. One other was around too and the 5th not seen."
#3
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#2
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#5
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Is the eye damaged? I dont think so but its hard to tell
Also sometimes I get this two prides mixed up and this maybe the case
Isnt southern pride Gijimas and Sand River 's Nkuhlus?
RE: Nkuhlu males - Ngonya - 12-08-2024
(12-08-2024, 08:24 PM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: Is the eye damaged? I dont think so but its hard to tellI think the eye is fine but the area is a bit swollen after the beating, that seems like it.
(12-08-2024, 08:24 PM)Rui Ferreira Wrote: Also sometimes I get this two prides mixed up and this maybe the caseYeah correct, Gijimas rule Southern Pride and Nkuhlus rule Sand River.
Isnt southern pride Gijimas and Sand River 's Nkuhlus?
The author could've made a confusion but im not sure either. If that is a Southern pride female, wouldn't be the smartest decision by the Nkuhlus, especially with their leader bruised. Can only await for further info.
RE: Nkuhlu males - Ngonya - 12-10-2024
All 5 Nkuhlu brothers killed a buffalo at Kirkman's Kamp
Snip Tail Nkuhlu #2 recovering from the beating...
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A menacing looking Pale Nkuhlu #6 approaches his brothers to hopefully share their kill
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RE: Nkuhlu males - Ngonya - 12-11-2024
Nkuhlu x Sand River
MALAMALA GAME RESERVE | GAME REPORT | November -2024
THE SAND RIVER PRIDE = 6
- 2 ADULT FEMALES ± 6 YEARS 4 MONTHS
- 1 ADULT FEMALE 4 YEARS 10 MONTHS
- 1 SUB-ADULT FEMALE 4 YEARS 3 MONTHS
- 2 SUB-ADULT FEMALES 3 YEARS 3 MONTHS
(6 sightings)
"Two lionesses were with the Nkuhlu males at Flat Rocks on the 3rd and three lionesses were with one Nkuhlu male at Charleston Rock on the 7th. A lioness was mating with an Nkuhlu male at Charleston Rock two days later and four lionesses were with two Nkuhlu males at KK Crossing on the 10th. The next day, they were far east of River Rocks and one lioness was with four Nkuhlu males at Rock Crossing on the 12th."
THE NKUHLU MALES = 6
- 2 ADULT MALES ± 6 YEARS 3 MONTHS
- 4 ADULT MALES ±5 YEARS 3 MONTHS
First encountered on Mala Mala Game Reserve in 2022
(7 sightings)
"Three males were with members of the Sand River pride at Flat Rocks on the 3rd and one male was with them at Charleston Rock on the 7th. One male was mating with a Sand River lioness at Charleston Rock on the 9th and two of them were with the members of the Sand River pride at KK Crossing the next day. The same group were far east of River Rocks on the 11th and four males were with one Sand River lioness at Rocky Crossing the next day. On the 26th, two males were south of Trollip’s Access."
RE: Nkuhlu males - Ngonya - 12-11-2024
The 5 Nkuhlu males, not far from each other.
Crooked Tail, #5
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Smudge, #1
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Snip Tail Nkuhlu #2 recovering from the Gijimas beating. Here we can clearly see the extent of his injuries. A 2v1 no doubts.
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RE: Nkuhlu males - BA0701 - 12-11-2024
(12-11-2024, 07:14 PM)Ngonya Wrote: The 5 Nkuhlu males, not far from each other.
Crooked Tail, #5
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Smudge, #1
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Snip Tail Nkuhlu #2 recovering from the Gijimas beating. Here we can clearly see the extent of his injuries. A 2v1 no doubts.
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He got pretty torn up, equal to K4. I hope we can see him walking soon.
RE: Nkuhlu males - Ttimemarti - 12-11-2024
So the gijimas have been able to catch multiple males but have not killed any so are they purposely not going all in on these fights (as in this is a serious threat we must kill him) or they’re just giving warnings… some pretty serious warnings other than Uboso who ultimately died because of those injuries and now skorro jr who’s been badly handicapped by them… when it comes to skorro jr and the plains camp males i think he just put up too much of a fight and Makunga backed off which made his brother back off plus he’s wasn’t a serious threat but they definitely didn’t want him around
RE: Nkuhlu males - Mapokser - 12-11-2024
The Ndhzenga had a club front foot, it probably makes it difficult for him to wrestle, especially in a 2v1, still he survived an entire year after that.
Tumbela was already skinny and had a permanent limp, but still is surviving just fine despite no pride or partners.
I think the theory that the seriousness of these attacks are at least mostly random might be right, sometimes the lions are in the mood to go for the kill or try to at least make sure the injuries will be eventually fatal or crippling, and most of the time they're happy just asserting their dominance after a beating, regardless of the threat level.
RE: Nkuhlu males - Tr1x24 - 12-11-2024
(12-11-2024, 07:14 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Snip Tail Nkuhlu #2 recovering from the Gijimas beating. Here we can clearly see the extent of his injuries. A 2v1 no doubts.
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Jesus, it didnt look so serious from previous photos..
He got beaten quite badly.
As in K4s case, lucky to be alive.
Prob a good lesson for him to not play with Gijimas, as he and Smudge really dont have support from the rest.
Any info about him walking? Those bites on knees look painful, it could easily break/dislocate some bones/ligaments there (BYM had same bite injuries, and got permanent limp).
RE: Nkuhlu males - BA0701 - 12-11-2024
(12-11-2024, 08:16 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So the gijimas have been able to catch multiple males but have not killed any so are they purposely not going all in on these fights (as in this is a serious threat we must kill him) or they’re just giving warnings… some pretty serious warnings other than Uboso who ultimately died because of those injuries and now skorro jr who’s been badly handicapped by them… when it comes to skorro jr and the plains camp males i think he just put up too much of a fight and Makunga backed off which made his brother back off plus he’s wasn’t a serious threat but they definitely didn’t want him around
I am not in the camp that believes Skorro Jr's limp resulted from the Gijima's attack, he had it before them, it seemed possibly caused by the PCM's attack on the air strip. Still, while he was injured in those attacks, given his recent developments (hip bones wearing through his skin), and what we know about stress (fighting, injuries, etc...) appearing to trigger an onset of serious TB symptoms, I am of the belief that his permanent limp is likely the result of his having TB.
RE: Nkuhlu males - Ttimemarti - 12-12-2024
I feared this would happen TB would get the better of him but I meant like his current shape it was the gijimas that beat him up and now he’s literally a scavenger and a shell of his former self unfortunately it’s a shame that he along with his brothers all had TB pretty badly