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RE: Mangheni Pride - Mwk85 - 10-25-2024
(10-24-2024, 11:43 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Sad about both cubs but particularly the youngest boy. He survived after his mother died, and always managed to fight for his place at the 'dinner table'. He seemed like a survivor.
It's a real shame the PC males seem to have abandoned them so completely, especially as it seems unlikely they will become pride males of the Nkuhumas after all. If this keeps happening and the Mhangenis lose all of their offspring, that's a huge chunk of PC legacy gone. It would go to show that the most aggressive males don't necessarily end up with the most descendants.
Hope for the sake of the prides future that the four remaining young females are able to make it to adulthood. Haven't seen the severity of the the second young male's injuries but was said in another post that he was following the rest of the pride, albeit from a distance. Definitely sucks that they're now down to six from where they started.
RE: Mangheni Pride - Fenix123 - 10-25-2024
Some new updates about Mhangeni Pride
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RE: Mangheni Pride - T_Ferguson - 10-25-2024
Not sure I see a sub that looks terribly injured.
RE: Mangheni Pride - Duco Ndona - 10-25-2024
Definitely a bad week for the lions in western sector with two deathly encounters in just a few days time.
The Ximhungwe is developing in a seriously aggressive pride, to attack a pride like that while being seriously outnumbered. While the Mangheni seems to have lost their edge after the two eldest lionesses died.
I wonder if it has to do with their histories. The Ximhungwes, especially the original Ximhungwe lioness consists out of lionesses that spend a considerable time as nomads that had to work hard for their spot in western sector.
While the current Mangheni recently lost the two eldest lionesses which probably functioned as some kind of matriarch the younger lions followed around. Leaving them now without much experience, leadership and confidence as a group.
Still, with adult 3 lionesses and 4 female cubs and plenty of space to retreat too and the Ximhungwes unlikely to have the backing of the PCmales in any future attacks. They will likely remain a dominant factor in western sector for a while. So I don't think this will become a repeat of the Othawa pride.
RE: Mangheni Pride - Ttimemarti - 10-25-2024
Wait why are ximhungwe mhangeni and tsalala prides all seem like they live in savanna when it’s an entire west is open I don’t remember the othawas and mhangenis having any fatal altercations but it seems like only the othawa females are living in the “deep” west
RE: Mangheni Pride - Rui Ferreira - 10-25-2024
(10-25-2024, 02:48 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Wait why are ximhungwe mhangeni and tsalala prides all seem like they live in savanna when it’s an entire west is open I don’t remember the othawas and mhangenis having any fatal altercations but it seems like only the othawa females are living in the “deep” west
Maybe thats where the herds of buffalos and other prey are, so they get radiated to that zone to feed, that would make sense for Xim and Manghenis since they have more mouths to feed, as for Tsalala I dont know
The Ottawas might be doing very good in "deep west" with hogs, kudus etc..
This might get even worse once we get into dry season
RE: Mangheni Pride - KM600 - 10-25-2024
Adding onto all these above comments about the situation, Savanna IG confirmed Ximhungwe Pride has no serious injuries after the clash. Those two females are extremely aggressive, they’ve had Nkuhuma breakaways running for their lives quite a few times and that male, despite his still young age, is extremely impressive.
Shame about there only being 2 subadult males left in the Mhangeni Pride too, a coalition of 5 mini PCMs would’ve had a great chance to become successful and carry on the lineage.
RE: Mangheni Pride - NLAL11 - 10-25-2024
(10-25-2024, 02:48 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Wait why are ximhungwe mhangeni and tsalala prides all seem like they live in savanna when it’s an entire west is open I don’t remember the othawas and mhangenis having any fatal altercations but it seems like only the othawa females are living in the “deep” westTsalala territory is northern Singita and north-western Londolozi. Like her mother before her she sticks close to the Sand River.
RE: Mangheni Pride - Tr1x24 - 10-25-2024
(10-25-2024, 02:48 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Wait why are ximhungwe mhangeni and tsalala prides all seem like they live in savanna when it’s an entire west is open
Savanna guides/rangers traverse whole western sector i think (or most of it), not only their property.
RE: Mangheni Pride - Rui Ferreira - 10-25-2024
(10-25-2024, 02:55 PM)KM600 Wrote: Adding onto all these above comments about the situation, Savanna IG confirmed Ximhungwe Pride has no serious injuries after the clash. Those two females are extremely aggressive, they’ve had Nkuhuma breakaways running for their lives quite a few times and that male, despite his still young age, is extremely impressive.The two cubs/subs arent even one year younger than the Nkuhuma Breakaway sub right?
Shame about there only being 2 subadult males left in the Mhangeni Pride too, a coalition of 5 mini PCMs would’ve had a great chance to become successful and carry on the lineage.
Maybe in the future a coalition could be formed in an utopic situation
I dont see the need for Nkuhuma Breakaway leave his sister in the next couple years, so that might make time for the Mangheni boys to grow up
RE: Mangheni Pride - Guillermo94 - 10-25-2024
(10-25-2024, 07:08 PM)Rui Ferreira Wrote:They may meet or have a chance with the three cubs from the three Kambula lionesses. I think there is one male lion and is around the same age; he might get a chance to meet with his brothers that are younger in the bigger Kambula lions there are some younger Kambulas. There is also the Tsalala now with one cub male lion. It would be good if they meet. I wonder if K2 will have more cubs.(10-25-2024, 02:55 PM)KM600 Wrote: Adding onto all these above comments about the situation, Savanna IG confirmed Ximhungwe Pride has no serious injuries after the clash. Those two females are extremely aggressive, they’ve had Nkuhuma breakaways running for their lives quite a few times and that male, despite his still young age, is extremely impressive.The two cubs/subs arent even one year younger than the Nkuhuma Breakaway sub right?
Shame about there only being 2 subadult males left in the Mhangeni Pride too, a coalition of 5 mini PCMs would’ve had a great chance to become successful and carry on the lineage.
Maybe in the future a coalition could be formed in an utopic situation
I dont see the need for Nkuhuma Breakaway leave his sister in the next couple years, so that might make time for the Mangheni boys to grow up
RE: Mangheni Pride - Mwk85 - 10-26-2024
They ended up bringing down two young buffalos. Still haven't seen anything on the severity of the young males injuries, so his status is still up in the air I guess.
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RE: Mangheni Pride - Duco Ndona - 10-26-2024
He seems to be struggling to keep up with the pride. That in itself is a sign something is very wrong with him.
RE: Mangheni Pride - KM600 - 10-26-2024
(10-26-2024, 12:14 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: He seems to be struggling to keep up with the pride. That in itself is a sign something is very wrong with him.
I’ve seen some ppl already start to say he’s prolly passed, I think it’s too early for that, but yea not being able to keep up with the pride is a death sentence. Mhangenis went from being one of the most promising prides in Sabi Sands to the one most at risk (not counting the prides with a single female) all in a matter of what 2 months, crazy.
RE: Mangheni Pride - Tr1x24 - 10-26-2024
(10-26-2024, 09:45 PM)KM600 Wrote: I’ve seen some ppl already start to say he’s prolly passed, I think it’s too early for that, but yea not being able to keep up with the pride is a death sentence. Mhangenis went from being one of the most promising prides in Sabi Sands to the one most at risk (not counting the prides with a single female) all in a matter of what 2 months, crazy.
Most of female subs are still alive, which is important for the pride, they lost mostly male cubs/subs.