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RE: White tiger, facts and myths - GuateGojira - 07-16-2014

(07-15-2014, 11:23 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Also Gaute, here is info on Ranthambhore baby boom
*This image is copyright of its original author
Ranthambhore National ParkApril 8Female tigers of the tourism zone - All the mature females of the tourism zone of Ranthambhore have cubs right now : T 8 with one cub, T 19 with four cubs, T 39 has cubs (though no one has seen them as yet) and T 41 with one cub. Besides these there are three or four young females that have either just come of age or are still to young to have cubs. Besides these females there are about 14 males that can be seen in the tourism zones.
Ranthambhore's biggest demographic problem is that there are far too many males and not enough breeding females in the park. 68108 SharesLikeLike · · =164990260221338&p[1]=655538851166474&profile_id=164990260221338&share_source_type=unknown&__av=100001388236295]Share



and anotherHey All,

The 2013-2014 season has come to a glorious end at Ranthambhore and the park re-opens in October after the monsoons. Ranthambhore has been blessed with a baby boom and all its denizens seem to have pulled through the year without any fuss. Our next few posts shall highlight the current status of each Tiger family of Ranthambhore & what is expected next season. Here is an update # 2 on another family of Ranthambhore.

T-24 (Ustad) : Happy & content as ever in his own domain. He is a prolific hunter and apparently, it seems he doesn't mind sharing food with either his mate Noor or son Sultan. Ustad has been a doting Dad to Sultan and looks all set to spend quality time with the new arrivals. How long both parents tolerate Sultan's presence remains to be seen.

T-72 (Sultan) : Still a young brat, although he does manage to hunt on his own, he has often been sighted in close proximity to his mother Noor & her 2 new-born cubs. This grown up boy loves hanging around his parent’s area rather than seek out a territory for himself. As long as he doesn't venture out of the park, he looks all set to remain in his parent’s territory a bit longer than expected and keep putting on a show to his ardent admirers.

T-39 (Noor) : A proud mother of 2 young cubs, she remains one of the star attractions of the park and we bet she will raise the new litter to adulthood without any hiccups and also impart lessons to remain oblivious to the presence of tourists. Her cubs shall be at least 7 months old by the time the park re-opens in October and she looks all set to be a show-stopper next season. It remains to be seen as to how long would Sultan, her offspring from the first litter, lurk around her territory.

We wish to thank our good friend Vipin Sharma for letting us share this image of Noor feeding her cubs.— with Minh Ha and 38 others.
https://www.facebook.com/tigertrackersindia

more on Ranthambhore and a unknown male who took over bameras territory

Ranthambhore was echoing with the purrs of a large number of cubs from the various adults and their carefree activities made the sighting season rich and delightful. Both the park favourites T39 and T19 decided to raise their new litter in the tourist zone giving the visitors an exciting sneak peak into the tiger life. Sub adult cubs from previous litters along with the orphan cubs of T17 kept the number of sightings rolling in. The legendary Machli also contributed her fair share by catching up with the visitors a number of times. Needless to say, the shutterbugs had a delightful time and indulged in some awe-inspiring photo shoots of the striped beauty.
Bandhavgarh, yet another important tiger park of the country made an anxious start to the season with the news of a new male entering Tala zone and defeating Bamera. Loss of two Kankati cubs (each of the either sex) was an equal dampener as was the complete loss of Banbehi’s fresh litter. Most of the veterans had predicted the end of Bamera reign and his clan. Kankatis continued absence from Chakradhara was giving it a deserted look. However, the park surprised everyone with the cubs of Rajbehara and Mirchaini  and increased the sightings count. The end of the season brought in the good news of Kankati raising yet another litter of three cubs soaring all hopes.  Re-appearance of a male cub from her previous litter was also a great up lifter.

http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=8ec3162a72a91b11107508c86&id=4b671544c2
 

Do you still consider Ranthambhore to be making up the baby boom, Gaute?

 
Those were NOT my words, but if you like it, then YES, I still consider it. All these reports are just bubbles of soap. Don't you found "curious" that even when all the "official" reports of the parks shows that the tiger populations are growing, the true figures of tiger population never grow, and in the best case, they are only stable?

How many of those cubs actually survive? How many of them actually reach adulthood? How many of them manage to reproduce? A baby boom is good, but is not the savior note at all.

Taking in count the cases of Sariska and Panna, I still can't believe, at the first moment at least, in the reports of park rangers and park administrators. In the best case, most of the parks in India have only 30 to 40 specimens and from them, maybe half are breeding adults. We need more than just some "baby booms" here and there, we need a higher surviving rate of the tigers. Besides, inter-species conflict is not direct evidence of a higher population. Lack of prey and human population increase can cause this too.
 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - GuateGojira - 07-16-2014

(07-15-2014, 11:12 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Its the same pictures as Gaute posted, so i guess no clear image exists from that expedition. I am curious about the video if it exists, as well as if Sundquist saw any white tigers.


 
You are assuming that the digital version is the same than the physical version and that is not the case.

Check that all the pictures in the digital version of the book are black and blurry. However, when Peter posted his versions, scanned from the physical book, the images were very clear and clean. So, there is a better picture of the white tigress in the physical book. In that case, your assumption that there are no clear images of the white tigress is incorrect. If you don't believe in me, check the difference:

1. The picture in the digital version (online).

*This image is copyright of its original author


2. The picture scanned from the physical book (thanks to Peter).

*This image is copyright of its original author

Did you see how different they are? [img]images/smilies/sleepy.gif[/img] Search the physical book and you will see the beautiful picture of the wild white tigress with her "new arrival" (her cubs).

Again, Dr Sunquist never saw a white tiger in the wild, that was just an example, not an account or a report.

About the video, I am downloading the documentary "Tiger of India in IMAX". This show was about Jim Corbett and his accounts. I hope that maybe this video have the white tigress on it.
 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - GuateGojira - 07-16-2014

Here are the four photographs taken by Jim Corbett, from the digital version of his book:

*This image is copyright of its original author



*This image is copyright of its original author

This last one is the white tigress. This is the best that I can do, with the digital version. If you want a better image, ask it to Peter or search it in a library. I can't do anything more.

Finally, again, the page where Jim Corbett states that it was a full grow wild white tigress:

*This image is copyright of its original author

 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-16-2014

(07-16-2014, 11:09 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:
(07-15-2014, 11:23 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Also Gaute, here is info on Ranthambhore baby boom
*This image is copyright of its original author
Ranthambhore National ParkApril 8Female tigers of the tourism zone - All the mature females of the tourism zone of Ranthambhore have cubs right now : T 8 with one cub, T 19 with four cubs, T 39 has cubs (though no one has seen them as yet) and T 41 with one cub. Besides these there are three or four young females that have either just come of age or are still to young to have cubs. Besides these females there are about 14 males that can be seen in the tourism zones.
Ranthambhore's biggest demographic problem is that there are far too many males and not enough breeding females in the park. 68108 SharesLikeLike · · =164990260221338&p[1]=655538851166474&profile_id=164990260221338&share_source_type=unknown&__av=100001388236295]Share



and anotherHey All,

The 2013-2014 season has come to a glorious end at Ranthambhore and the park re-opens in October after the monsoons. Ranthambhore has been blessed with a baby boom and all its denizens seem to have pulled through the year without any fuss. Our next few posts shall highlight the current status of each Tiger family of Ranthambhore & what is expected next season. Here is an update # 2 on another family of Ranthambhore.

T-24 (Ustad) : Happy & content as ever in his own domain. He is a prolific hunter and apparently, it seems he doesn't mind sharing food with either his mate Noor or son Sultan. Ustad has been a doting Dad to Sultan and looks all set to spend quality time with the new arrivals. How long both parents tolerate Sultan's presence remains to be seen.

T-72 (Sultan) : Still a young brat, although he does manage to hunt on his own, he has often been sighted in close proximity to his mother Noor & her 2 new-born cubs. This grown up boy loves hanging around his parent’s area rather than seek out a territory for himself. As long as he doesn't venture out of the park, he looks all set to remain in his parent’s territory a bit longer than expected and keep putting on a show to his ardent admirers.

T-39 (Noor) : A proud mother of 2 young cubs, she remains one of the star attractions of the park and we bet she will raise the new litter to adulthood without any hiccups and also impart lessons to remain oblivious to the presence of tourists. Her cubs shall be at least 7 months old by the time the park re-opens in October and she looks all set to be a show-stopper next season. It remains to be seen as to how long would Sultan, her offspring from the first litter, lurk around her territory.

We wish to thank our good friend Vipin Sharma for letting us share this image of Noor feeding her cubs.— with Minh Ha and 38 others.
https://www.facebook.com/tigertrackersindia

more on Ranthambhore and a unknown male who took over bameras territory

Ranthambhore was echoing with the purrs of a large number of cubs from the various adults and their carefree activities made the sighting season rich and delightful. Both the park favourites T39 and T19 decided to raise their new litter in the tourist zone giving the visitors an exciting sneak peak into the tiger life. Sub adult cubs from previous litters along with the orphan cubs of T17 kept the number of sightings rolling in. The legendary Machli also contributed her fair share by catching up with the visitors a number of times. Needless to say, the shutterbugs had a delightful time and indulged in some awe-inspiring photo shoots of the striped beauty.
Bandhavgarh, yet another important tiger park of the country made an anxious start to the season with the news of a new male entering Tala zone and defeating Bamera. Loss of two Kankati cubs (each of the either sex) was an equal dampener as was the complete loss of Banbehi’s fresh litter. Most of the veterans had predicted the end of Bamera reign and his clan. Kankatis continued absence from Chakradhara was giving it a deserted look. However, the park surprised everyone with the cubs of Rajbehara and Mirchaini  and increased the sightings count. The end of the season brought in the good news of Kankati raising yet another litter of three cubs soaring all hopes.  Re-appearance of a male cub from her previous litter was also a great up lifter.

http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=8ec3162a72a91b11107508c86&id=4b671544c2
 

Do you still consider Ranthambhore to be making up the baby boom, Gaute?


 
Those were NOT my words, but if you like it, then YES, I still consider it. All these reports are just bubbles of soap. Don't you found "curious" that even when all the "official" reports of the parks shows that the tiger populations are growing, the true figures of tiger population never grow, and in the best case, they are only stable?

How many of those cubs actually survive? How many of them actually reach adulthood? How many of them manage to reproduce? A baby boom is good, but is not the savior note at all.

Taking in count the cases of Sariska and Panna, I still can't believe, at the first moment at least, in the reports of park rangers and park administrators. In the best case, most of the parks in India have only 30 to 40 specimens and from them, maybe half are breeding adults. We need more than just some "baby booms" here and there, we need a higher surviving rate of the tigers. Besides, inter-species conflict is not direct evidence of a higher population. Lack of prey and human population increase can cause this too.
 

 
"All these reports are just bubbles of soap. Don't you found "curious" that even when all the "official" reports of the parks shows that the tiger populations are growing, the true figures of tiger population never grow, and in the best case, they are only stable?"

Tiger numbers have grown, sightings have grown, new tigers are popping up everywhere. "Bubbles and soap"?
I don't agree with you here gaute,

Im curious to why you have such skepticism toward these confirmed sightings, images, and eye witness accounts, compared to my skepticism from a blurry image with no clear colors from a hunter who has claimed a couple of questionable accounts?
Then you posted the image and said that this was deffinitive proof of the white tigress, but these actual accounts and images are not?


 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-16-2014

(07-16-2014, 11:46 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:
(07-15-2014, 11:12 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Its the same pictures as Gaute posted, so i guess no clear image exists from that expedition. I am curious about the video if it exists, as well as if Sundquist saw any white tigers.



 
You are assuming that the digital version is the same than the physical version and that is not the case.

Check that all the pictures in the digital version of the book are black and blurry. However, when Peter posted his versions, scanned from the physical book, the images were very clear and clean. So, there is a better picture of the white tigress in the physical book. In that case, your assumption that there are no clear images of the white tigress is incorrect. If you don't believe in me, check the difference:

1. The picture in the digital version (online).

*This image is copyright of its original author


2. The picture scanned from the physical book (thanks to Peter).

*This image is copyright of its original author

Did you see how different they are? [img]images/smilies/sleepy.gif[/img] Search the physical book and you will see the beautiful picture of the wild white tigress with her "new arrival" (her cubs).

Again, Dr Sunquist never saw a white tiger in the wild, that was just an example, not an account or a report.

About the video, I am downloading the documentary "Tiger of India in IMAX". This show was about Jim Corbett and his accounts. I hope that maybe this video have the white tigress on it.
 

 



And yet either image is 100 times more clear than the image claimed by Corbett.
Which looks like it was taken out of night vision googles in black and white.
It's not comparable, the only image that is even viewable is the one of the tigers side profile.

Once again, I already admitted that white tigers most likely can survive till adulthood in the wild, still skeptical until i see actual proof, but theres enough accounts for me to consider it. But this image is certainly not proof of anything, and I would hope you would admit it.
I understand you think Corbett wouldn't deceive and I am not saying he would or wouldn't, but this image is definitely not conclusive in any sense of the word.

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-16-2014

(07-16-2014, 10:59 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:
(07-15-2014, 09:27 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Im not sure how you rebutted my position?
You said these animals would not make it with out human assistance. Yet these animals will all make with out human assistance. If you mean that these animals must be protected from other human beings and the destruction of their world, then yes, they need assistance. But that has nothing to do with them or nature, that has to do with a outside factor that has the means to stop when ever they want.
Its been proven by the numerous animals that have come back on their own the minute they were protected and put on endangered species list and banned the people from killing them. Notice that people had to ban people. Once again, nothing to do with nature. We are arguing symantics at this point.

2ndly I have been absolutey willing to take Corbetts account, but heres the facts.
He specifically said he saw them, got them on video and took pictures.
So, lets see the video lets see the images. With a image you can actually see!

You also speak of corbett like you know everything about him, corbett has quite a few crazy stories that have not been seen by any other man.
No man has ever seen two tigers take on any large prey together, let alone two tigers take on a adult tusker. I'm not saying this doesn't happen, it probably does, but no images, video or eye witness accounts of anything like that has ever been reported by any other person.
Same with the white tiger adult and then with cubs.
2 accounts never seen by another man.....


Gaute also said Sundquist said he saw one, and If i see a email from sundquist saying he saw a white tiger adult or cub, I think i would be more willing to accept his word because from what I have read and seen, he seems to be a more conservative and realistic researcher, IMO.


 


 
Pckts, you are scaring me. You are acting like... Asad!

1. There is not a single account of a large wild animal returning from extinction without the help of humans. There are cases of "invasions" like the pythons in Florida, but there are other factors in those cases. Wild horses, bison and other large mammals, all of them needed the direct help of humans for they recovery.

2. Jim Corbett is one of the most reliable sources, but now you put him in doubt just because he shows wild white tigers! For example, how many times you have defended the account of the two tigers killing the huge tusker, but now you use it to show that Jim made exaggerations? I am sure that many lion-fans would be glad with your words now. However, there is a huge fail in your argument, Jim NEVER said that HE saw that account. Read the book and you will see that he clearly said that some villagers told him that, so he is just telling the story, nothing more. However, in the case of the white tigers, he directly saw it, picture it and his record is in the book. What more do you need? The picture in the book (the digital version, of course) is more clear than many pictures in other post that all of us have accepted. I don't know why you denied its reliability. Why you don't ask Peter? I remember that he have a physical copy of the book. After all, he showed a better version of the two pictures of the Bachelor of Powalgarh.

3. I NEVER said that Dr Sunquist saw a white tigers. I was putting an EXAMPLE, a supposition that IF Dr Sunqusit would saw a white tiger, I will believe in him, just like I believe in Jim Corbett. Be careful with those interpretations.
 

 



I thought you quoted Sundquist as seeing white tigers, I guess not.

Now, don't ever compare me to Asad!
Because you are acting like Bold, by denying the idea of tiger populations growing in Ranthambhore, saying a blurry image is conclusive evidence, saying Corbett is the most reliable source, considering he is a hunter, that alone makes him slightly less reliable,
you saying animals aren't making a comeback?If there's one thing above all to celebrate in the wild, it's nature's resilience. At times, the deck may seem stacked against the world's animals — according to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, the danger of disappearing species is worse than the ongoing financial meltdown — but even a stint on the doomed endangered species list may not be the sealed fate it used to be.Remarkably, several once-threatened species are actually making a comeback these days, resisting extinction and growing in numbers once again. Here are a few animals that, in spite of nearly being wiped out, are enjoying a revival in the wild.
http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/earth-month/tech-gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=28092503

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/animal-comebacks-quiz.htm

http://teachingkidsnews.com/2014/01/06/4-endangered-animals-making-comeback-canada/

I can go on and on, you'll try and scew this and say this wouldn't happen with out humans, and I say, yet again.... the only help they need is protection from other humans. All human beings have to do protect them from us, that is it. So, that means, leave them alone and nature will take care of it self. Like the tons of species that are already coming back.

Gaute, you and I have had civil debates, don't call me Asad again. That is BS and you know it

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-16-2014

A little more proof on why these "conservation efforts" are bs, and why the only thing we should "conserve" is the earth and all its creatures. Every animal, plant and eco sytem needs to be maintained and kept healthy.

"Okay, so why don’t we all know that tigers are slipping towards the edge? Part of the reason might be because we see them all the time in zoos and at the circus. But captive tigers don’t count: they’re gone from the wild gene pool and even if they could be released, they wouldn’t know how to hunt or survive outside of an enclosure and their familiarity with people would make them dangerous. And it’s nearly impossible to move a new individual into a place where tigers live. These cats are incredibly territorial and will fight to the death over their carefully delineated home territory.Another big reason that many of us don’t realize there are so few tigers is that for the last 40 years or so, conservation organizations have loudly claimed that they’re saving them. It’s a way to keep donations rolling in. But the fact is, only a few of them are making headway in a few locations. Billions of dollars have been fundraised and spent, yet tiger numbers continue to plummet.To save the tiger, protecting those 42 precious source sites is critical. In 2010, fully protecting those sites was estimated at a cost of $82 million a year.Though tigers are in the emergency room, they’re a resilient species. They were nearly annihilated 73,000 years ago when a massive volcanic eruption at Sumatra’s Lake Toba plunged the planet into volcanic winter, wiping out scores of Asian mammals. The species rebounded from just a few individuals to repopulate Asia.The good news: A female can birth 15 cubs in her lifetime, and there’s still enough habitat to support healthy populations.  If both the cats and their prey are given boots-on-the-ground protection, there’s hope, they’ll bounce back. But it will take committed, targeted action and creative strategies."
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2014/01/13/three-thousand-wild-tigers/

Tigers and every other animal will come back the minute people protect them from people.
Imagine every freeway has massive land bridges for animals to cross safely, every sky scrapper has huge trees surrounding it, every car admitted no C02, all energy was derived from solar or reusable, gas was done away with, no more draining and mining of natural resources.
Humans don't need diamonds or fossil fuel, they haven't for over 100s of years. There where guys in the 1800 and before who already successfully developed solar power but where shunned because fossil fuel was so much easier to use and cheaper.

So while you say they need "conservation" I say they need "protection" and the world needs "conservation. "
I hope that is clear when I say that humans need to stay out of the way and a white tiger will occur naturally in the wild, if it did once, it will again.

 

 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - GuateGojira - 07-20-2014

Hello Pckts, I have not leave the debate yet, just that I have little time right now.

Of course, I disagree with you in many points, but I will like to apologize to call you "Asad", that was too extreme, I think that the worst garbage in the world is 100% better than that poster. Sorry for the comparison, ok? [img]images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Now, about the baby boom, I sustain my point, those are just soap bubbles. They say that all the time, but I don't see the number of tigers increasing dramatically, only in the government papers, at least.

Tiger conservation is making great efforts, of course, but with the high levels of poaching and human conflict, all those "baby booms" have only a medium effect in the population. Many of them (over 50%) actually don't even reach the adulthood and those that do it, most face a hard time finding a territory, remember that a tiger can't breed without a territory for its own, and this is exactly what tigers don't have in India. Remember "Broken tail", that young male managed to survive up to its independence and traveled a huge distance just to be killed by a train!

Baby booms are good (check that I have NOT denied its existence), but they are irrelevant until the Indian government provide good protection for them. This is another example of direct human intervention, tigers need it desperately! The figure of about 3,200 tigers in the wild is the high side, only half of it is breeding adults, which at the end, are the important ones.
 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - GuateGojira - 07-20-2014

By the way, did you remember when you tell me that I can’t prove that all American white tigers are hybrids between Amur and Bengal tiger and that there are no accounts of wild white tigers in India?
 
Well, check this out:
 
*This image is copyright of its original author

Check that the message of “zero value” applies to American White tigers, and although Indian white ones are also inbreed, they can be "saved" through genetic management.

In a next post, evidence that Indian white tigers are still 100% Panthera tigris tigris and that there are not a single pure Bengal tiger in any part of the world, captive or wild, except in India.
 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - GuateGojira - 07-20-2014

Ohhh, what the hell, here is the table of Pure captive tigers in the world, in the managed zoos:


*This image is copyright of its original author

This is also evidence that all the tigers in America AND Australia that claim to have Bengal tigers are wrong. It is also interesting to know that all the "Indochinese" tigers in zoos are in fact Malayan ones, this explain the very low weight figures for this tiger group in Slaght et al. (2005).

This other table show that only 8 specimens, apart from the 195 animals in managed zoos, are in other facilities, talking of the Bengal tigers of course:

*This image is copyright of its original author

All these tables came from the great book "Tigers of the World", version of 2010. It is available in Google Books, although only in a preview.
 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-20-2014

(07-20-2014, 09:24 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: Hello Pckts, I have not leave the debate yet, just that I have little time right now.

Of course, I disagree with you in many points, but I will like to apologize to call you "Asad", that was too extreme, I think that the worst garbage in the world is 100% better than that poster. Sorry for the comparison, ok? [img]images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Now, about the baby boom, I sustain my point, those are just soap bubbles. They say that all the time, but I don't see the number of tigers increasing dramatically, only in the government papers, at least.

Tiger conservation is making great efforts, of course, but with the high levels of poaching and human conflict, all those "baby booms" have only a medium effect in the population. Many of them (over 50%) actually don't even reach the adulthood and those that do it, most face a hard time finding a territory, remember that a tiger can't breed without a territory for its own, and this is exactly what tigers don't have in India. Remember "Broken tail", that young male managed to survive up to its independence and traveled a huge distance just to be killed by a train!

Baby booms are good (check that I have NOT denied its existence), but they are irrelevant until the Indian government provide good protection for them. This is another example of direct human intervention, tigers need it desperately! The figure of about 3,200 tigers in the wild is the high side, only half of it is breeding adults, which at the end, are the important ones.
 

 



A baby boom is good. 
Humans over stepping their boundries and killing animals is not.
But these are two different things, regardless if they make it to adulthood, it's good to see a increase in cubs, it means the eco system is in good condition. I agree, whether these cubs make it till adulthood is a completely different story. 

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-20-2014

Disgusting how many privately owned tigers there are. Even more disgusting that there is not a single pure bred bengal left in north america. All those wild cats brought here from the circus era and not a single one kept pure.  Nice job on "conservation" N. America. lol

Sometimes I don't understand how people can be so naive. They go to these zoos and learn about tigers yet don't understand how absurd the idea is, the only place tigers belong is in the wild. 

Tfs Gaute

RE: White tiger, facts and myths - Pckts - 07-20-2014

Tigerwalah shared Sariska Tiger Reserve's status.12 hours agoexcellent news......Some good news to share, Sariska blessed with more cubs.....ST2 sighted with 2 cubs....total count increases to 11. #tigercubs #sariska #tiger#tigerpopulation.

RE: B2 and Other Great Tiger Pics from India - phatio - 12-04-2014

Great News from Similipal, the forest officials claiming to have spotted  25 tigers including 3 "black tigers".
This is indeed a great news as Similipal is the only place in the world where "black tigers"  (actually tigers with very intensive, thick stripes) are known to have occured.


Similipal Counts 25 Royal Bengal Tigers


*This image is copyright of its original author

BALASORE : Speculations regarding the number of Royal Bengal Tiger (RBT) in Similipal Tiger Reserve (STR), the second largest in the country, have been put to rest with forest officials claiming to have spotted at least 25 tigers, including three melanistic (black) tigers, in the recently concluded survey.

The forest officials indicated that the population may be more as the census was conducted only in 400 sq km of 1,200-sq km core area. Earlier, the STR authorities had drawn flak from various quarters for declining number of RBTs.

Using pug-mark method, the STR had counted 101 tigers in 2004 and 61 in 2009. The number was challenged by National Tiger Conservation Authority (NTCA) and Wildlife Institution of India (WII). The two organisations had estimated 23 (12-34) tigers by camera trapping method in 2010 which the forest officials had refused to buy.

Regional Chief Conservator of Forest (RCCF) Anup Nayak admitted that there was a dispute over the figure which was calculated in pug mark method that was objected by NTCA.

“There is no dispute now as the census has been carried out through camera taping procedure as recommended. Altogether 126 cameras were fixed at 63 points and the population was counted as per the core within the core principle,” he said.

Sources said most of the big cats were spotted in Na’ana South and North, Meghasan, Manchabank, STR 60, STR 9, Chahala and Upper Barhakamuda ranges, which are completely restricted for the people. What has brought cheers for the forest officials is that the big cats were only counted in one third area of the tiger reserve. Efforts were on to count the tigers in other areas too where their scats were found.

The RCCF said signs and scats of the RBTs were also spotted in Kendumundi, Satkosia, Joranda, Mukabadi, Jodapal and Khadkei areas. The census was started in January 2012 and so far five sign surveys have been completed, while the last one will be held in December after which the final report would be published.

“The prey base has also increased over the years in the tiger reserve which is altogether a different terrain. The prey population has increased to 28 per sq km from 7 per sq km. There are 500 water bodies and seven rivers passing through the forest. There is no shortage of food or water in the forest, which has become a good habitation for the big cats,” he said.

In 2009, the Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG), after reviewing the functioning of the STR, had cast doubt over the tiger census figures presented by the then State forest authorities alleging that the pug mark method was not considered a fool proof methodology by experts.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/odisha/Similipal-Counts-25-Royal-Bengal-Tigers/2014/09/10/article2423728.ece
http://odishasuntimes.com/85319/tiger-population-goes-odishas-similipal-tiger-reserve/


Some 'black tigers' photos :

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look at him, he is a really cool guy isn't he?

Similipal tiger sighting, but no black tiger in this vid



 

 

 

 

RE: B2 and Other Great Tiger Pics from India - sanjay - 12-04-2014

WOW........ Can't belive.. Black tiger, Never heard and never seen. Big Thanks Phatio