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RE: Plains Camp males - KM600 - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
RE: Plains Camp males - BA0701 - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 09:43 PM)KM600 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
The Xim female is a curious one, to be sure. She seems to have a sort of magnetism about her, for all of these males. Maybe in the lion world, she is a 10, I don't know, but she sure does attract the boys, even when spending time with her could be viewed as hazardous to one's health.
RE: Plains Camp males - Cath2020 - 08-05-2024
(08-04-2024, 09:43 PM)KM600 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
Time will tell if they do shortchange the Xim Pride in the future or try to do a 50//50 split between the NK and Xim Prides. I doubt though, that this will be feasible as they age and the distance seems more daunting for them to navigate as new males come into SS and come of age to challenge them. In the near future they can get away with these excursions. I'm also curious to find out if the Xim Lioness gets pregnant again, and/or if it's too late to raise a litter.
RE: Plains Camp males - Rui Ferreira - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 12:24 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:Hello, Im sorry did something happend to the Ximungue pride? dont they have 2 cubs ?(08-04-2024, 09:43 PM)KM600 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
Time will tell if they do shortchange the Xim Pride in the future or try to do a 50//50 split between the NK and Xim Prides. I doubt though, that this will be feasible as they age and the distance seems more daunting for them to navigate as new males come into SS and come of age to challenge them. In the near future they can get away with these excursions. I'm also curious to find out if the Xim Lioness gets pregnant again, and/or if it's too late to raise a litter.
RE: Plains Camp males - KM600 - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 12:51 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote:(08-05-2024, 12:24 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:Hello, Im sorry did something happend to the Ximungue pride? dont they have 2 cubs ?(08-04-2024, 09:43 PM)KM600 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
Time will tell if they do shortchange the Xim Pride in the future or try to do a 50//50 split between the NK and Xim Prides. I doubt though, that this will be feasible as they age and the distance seems more daunting for them to navigate as new males come into SS and come of age to challenge them. In the near future they can get away with these excursions. I'm also curious to find out if the Xim Lioness gets pregnant again, and/or if it's too late to raise a litter.
We’re talking about the original Ximhungwe female who no longer has any cubs after her male cub was killed by an elephant. The female who does have the two cubs, was born an Ottawa pride lioness, so despite her now officially being apart of Ximhungwe Pride, we tend to call her Gingerella instead of solely ‘Ximhungwe lioness.’
RE: Plains Camp males - KM600 - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 12:24 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 09:43 PM)KM600 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
Time will tell if they do shortchange the Xim Pride in the future or try to do a 50//50 split between the NK and Xim Prides. I doubt though, that this will be feasible as they age and the distance seems more daunting for them to navigate as new males come into SS and come of age to challenge them. In the near future they can get away with these excursions. I'm also curious to find out if the Xim Lioness gets pregnant again, and/or if it's too late to raise a litter.
I agree with them most likely abandoning another pride especially as they age and come into contact with males who want to challenge them. They’re still young enough to a point where the current Ximhungwe cubs should have a good chance at surviving as long as they keep up these visits, and I believe they will. Long term I would expect them to commit to Nkuhuma Pride as long as they’re strong enough to hold it.
RE: Plains Camp males - KM600 - 08-05-2024
At first I thought this was the same injury as before and it was just posted late, turns out it’s fresh.
RE: Plains Camp males - BA0701 - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 01:36 AM)KM600 Wrote: At first I thought this was the same injury as before and it was just posted late, turns out it’s fresh.
I thought the same thing when I saw the earlier video. I almost posted that it seemed to be from a month or so ago. Wow, he has gotten extremely fortunate, almost lost the same eye twice, now, in a brief amount of time.
RE: Plains Camp males - adamstocks16 - 08-05-2024
Are we thinking this new eye injury is a result of scrapping with his brother for mating rights? If so these two are definitely not holding back! It would appear smaller male has the upper hand at this moment in time in terms of confidence and dominance.
RE: Plains Camp males - T_Ferguson - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 02:49 AM)adamstocks16 Wrote: Are we thinking this new eye injury is a result of scrapping with his brother for mating rights? If so these two are definitely not holding back! It would appear smaller male has the upper hand at this moment in time in terms of confidence and dominance.
I am not sure what to think. Admittedly, I haven't been following as closely over the past 2 weeks, but I thought the smaller brother was still up with the Nkhuma girls, and the bigger was west with the Xhimungs... I didn't think they were together over the past few days, but I can certainly be missing something.
RE: Plains Camp males - BA0701 - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 02:49 AM)adamstocks16 Wrote: Are we thinking this new eye injury is a result of scrapping with his brother for mating rights? If so these two are definitely not holding back! It would appear smaller male has the upper hand at this moment in time in terms of confidence and dominance.
The first time the smaller bro injured the same eye, it was definitely over mating rights, with the Nkuhumas. During that time, the smaller Bro seemed to win out, as this injured eye male traveled to Western Sector and left his brother up north with them.
RE: Plains Camp males - Rui Ferreira - 08-05-2024
(08-05-2024, 01:20 AM)KM600 Wrote:(08-05-2024, 12:51 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote:(08-05-2024, 12:24 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:Hello, Im sorry did something happend to the Ximungue pride? dont they have 2 cubs ?(08-04-2024, 09:43 PM)KM600 Wrote:(08-04-2024, 08:42 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Hmmm, could the Xim Lioness be starting estrous? I've seen footage of them sniffing her out very eagerly while she was not even trying to be flirty. Maybe.... But then again, the NK Lionesses will need more protection from the males if they are pregnant.
If I were an NK Lioness, I'd be wary of these males going back and forth all the time, not providing constant protection to potential cubs in the future. I wouldn't be as sold on them....but that's just me, lol. Maybe all of them are now pregnant!
If Xim gets pregnant, she'll be roaring all the time for the males to return and look after the pride, no doubt. But if there are MORE young cubs with the NKs, then I fear they will start to return less often to the Xim Pride, leaving the poor older lioness to once again lose any cubs to secure her bloodline.
I don’t think the amount of cubs they sire with each pride matters much. They will most likely stay primarily with Nkuhuma Pride for the amount of mating opportunities that come with it. I also don’t think PCMs keep returning to Ximhungwes purely to see if the old female is now pregnant, I genuinely believe they just favour that pride for unknown reasons.
I think their territory positioning also makes it easier for them to go back and forth between them and Nkuhumas, hence them seemingly not visiting Mhangenis as much. It’s definitely a wary time for all prides as PCMs don’t seem fully commited to one of them, but Mhangenis are for sure the ones in most danger.
Time will tell if they do shortchange the Xim Pride in the future or try to do a 50//50 split between the NK and Xim Prides. I doubt though, that this will be feasible as they age and the distance seems more daunting for them to navigate as new males come into SS and come of age to challenge them. In the near future they can get away with these excursions. I'm also curious to find out if the Xim Lioness gets pregnant again, and/or if it's too late to raise a litter.
We’re talking about the original Ximhungwe female who no longer has any cubs after her male cub was killed by an elephant. The female who does have the two cubs, was born an Ottawa pride lioness, so despite her now officially being apart of Ximhungwe Pride, we tend to call her Gingerella instead of solely ‘Ximhungwe lioness.’
Oh I get it now, I tought the two cubs were from the Xim female and not Gingerella my bad, thank you
RE: Plains Camp males - NLAL11 - 08-10-2024
Plains Camp male. Credits to Chris Taylor.
Edit: Photo taken 21st July.
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Plains Camp males - KM600 - 08-10-2024
(08-10-2024, 06:14 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Plains Camp male. Credits to Chris Taylor.
*This image is copyright of its original author
I’ve always thought these are the best type of photos u can take for lions. When it’s taken from too high a position, it doesn’t seem to do the size of the lion justice, that and I just like how clear their face and mane tends to be in photos like this.
RE: Plains Camp males - BA0701 - 08-10-2024
(08-10-2024, 06:14 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: Plains Camp male. Credits to Chris Taylor.
*This image is copyright of its original author
Do we, by chance, know when this was taken? His new, and recent, eye injury does not seem present, unless this image has been transposed.