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RE: BBoys sons - Tr1x24 - 07-02-2022
Nkuhuma male:
Photo credits : bsstevens73
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: BBoys sons - lionuk - 07-03-2022
Three younger Kambula young males at Londolozi Game Reserve
Great to see these three males together
RE: BBoys sons - DARK MANE - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 03:04 PM)lionuk Wrote: Three younger Kambula young males at Londolozi Game ReserveGood to see the triplets together.
Great to see these three males together
Any news of eldest two or the youngest one?
RE: BBoys sons - Tr1x24 - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 04:14 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Good to see the triplets together.
Any news of eldest two or the youngest one?
Looks like the youngest one is with them, male on the top on the picture.
RE: BBoys sons - lionuk - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 04:14 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Any news of eldest two or the youngest one?No, not for a while. Hopefully the eldest ones are somewhere around Lion Sands and Londolozi, rather than in the Kruger.
RE: BBoys sons - Tr1x24 - 07-03-2022
Nkuhuma male picked a nasty injury in a fight vs his dad over Ximhungwe female, he was lucky he didn’t lost an eye there :
Photo credits : Savanna game reserve
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: BBoys sons - Mdz123 - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 08:22 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Nkuhuma male picked a nasty injury in a fight vs his dad over Ximhungwe female, he was lucky he didn’t lost an eye there :
Photo credits : Savanna game reserve
*This image is copyright of its original author
As we can see Nhena, despite being old and out of his prime can still give a pretty heavy beating to younger males in their prime such as NYM
RE: BBoys sons - BA0701 - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 10:15 PM)Mdz123 Wrote:(07-03-2022, 08:22 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Nkuhuma male picked a nasty injury in a fight vs his dad over Ximhungwe female, he was lucky he didn’t lost an eye there :
Photo credits : Savanna game reserve
*This image is copyright of its original author
As we can see Nhena, despite being old and out of his prime can still give a pretty heavy beating to younger males in their prime such as NYM
Not to go down a rabbit hole of speculation, but I was asking myself the exact same thing as soon as I saw the image. It caused me to ponder what would have happened had Nhenha not had Tinyo if the end result with OM would have been any different. OM was not an overly aggressive male, but he sure was massive and strong. Nhenha has always been a beast, he used to bash Tinyo about on occasion in similar fashion.
RE: BBoys sons - Potato - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 10:15 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: As we can see Nhena, despite being old and out of his prime can still give a pretty heavy beating to younger males in their prime such as NYMIt seems Nkuchuma male remained with a female after confrontation so I would assume Nkuchuma male can up on top on this occassion.
(07-03-2022, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: OM was not an overly aggressive male, but he sure was massive and strongOM just did not have any occassion to fight which doesn't mean he was calm. In general he appeared to be very confident/ over confident, not calm and scared.
(07-03-2022, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: It caused me to ponder what would have happened had Nhenha not had Tinyo if the end result with OM would have been any different.Obviously it would. It is nearly impossible or at least exceptionally rare that 1vs1 fight between male lions would resault in the fatal injurys. To be honnest in such 1vs1 I would even expect OM to came on top. He was much younger, fitter, probably stronger. I would not expect OM would lack size and confidence either.
RE: BBoys sons - BA0701 - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 11:14 PM)Potato Wrote:(07-03-2022, 10:15 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: As we can see Nhena, despite being old and out of his prime can still give a pretty heavy beating to younger males in their prime such as NYMIt seems Nkuchuma male remained with a female after confrontation so I would assume Nkuchuma male can up on top on this occassion.
(07-03-2022, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: OM was not an overly aggressive male, but he sure was massive and strongOM just did not have any occassion to fight which doesn't mean he was calm. In general he appeared to be very confident/ over confident, not calm and scared.
(07-03-2022, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: It caused me to ponder what would have happened had Nhenha not had Tinyo if the end result with OM would have been any different.Obviously it would. It is nearly impossible or at least exceptionally rare that 1vs1 fight between male lions would resault in the fatal injurys. To be honnest in such 1vs1 I would even expect OM to came on top. He was much younger, fitter, probably stronger. I would not expect OM would lack size and confidence either.
Agreed, OM never lacked in confidence, which may have hurt him in the end. At just 3 years old, after the Majins died, he defended the Othawa Pride from the Mhangenis, and took on the role of pride male, at least until HB and Ginger arrived on the scene.
RE: BBoys sons - Slayerd - 07-04-2022
(07-03-2022, 11:14 PM)Potato Wrote:1. Just because the Nkuhuma Male was with the Ximungwhe female does not mean he dominated Nhenha. More than likely Nhenha got close and the Nkuhuma Male tried to disperse him only to get a big scratch on his face. Nhenha has done most of the mating and I assume he is giving the Nkuhuma Male the chance to mate now so he probably injured the Nkuhuma Male in defense of himself.(07-03-2022, 10:15 PM)Mdz123 Wrote: As we can see Nhena, despite being old and out of his prime can still give a pretty heavy beating to younger males in their prime such as NYMIt seems Nkuchuma male remained with a female after confrontation so I would assume Nkuchuma male can up on top on this occassion.
(07-03-2022, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: OM was not an overly aggressive male, but he sure was massive and strongOM just did not have any occassion to fight which doesn't mean he was calm. In general he appeared to be very confident/ over confident, not calm and scared.
(07-03-2022, 10:55 PM)BA0701 Wrote: It caused me to ponder what would have happened had Nhenha not had Tinyo if the end result with OM would have been any different.Obviously it would. It is nearly impossible or at least exceptionally rare that 1vs1 fight between male lions would resault in the fatal injurys. To be honnest in such 1vs1 I would even expect OM to came on top. He was much younger, fitter, probably stronger. I would not expect OM would lack size and confidence either.
2. Your Othawa Male comment comes off as bias. The Othawa Male was around the Bboys when Nhenha was 8-11 years old and the Othawa Male was around 3-6 years old. Looking at current events Nhenha is giving injuries to lions in their primes at the age of 12 years old whilst walking away unscathed. The Othawa Male would have been around Prime Nhenha. So if you wanna go by facts, Nhenha should he stronger, more experienced and confident in a 1v1 to take the Othawa Male who he chased multiple times and eventually played a part in killing. In the Othawa Males death, Nhenha only seemed to have receive a limp which he recovered from in less than a month. So I would disagree with you that the Othawa Male would come out on top.
RE: BBoys sons - Tr1x24 - 07-04-2022
(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: 2. Your Othawa Male comment comes off as bias. The Othawa Male was around the Bboys when Nhenha was 8-11 years old and the Othawa Male was around 3-6 years old. Looking at current events Nhenha is giving injuries to lions in their primes at the age of 12 years old whilst walking away unscathed. The Othawa Male would have been around Prime Nhenha. So if you wanna go by facts, Nhenha should he stronger, more experienced and confident in a 1v1 to take the Othawa Male who he chased multiple times and eventually played a part in killing. In the Othawa Males death, Nhenha only seemed to have receive a limp which he recovered from in less than a month. So I would disagree with you that the Othawa Male would come out on top.
He was talking about the fight last year, not prime Nhenha.
Lets not get in another pointless discussion "my favorite lion is stronger then yours".. Pls.
Nhenha and OM never fought in a 1 vs 1 , so we have absolutely 0 clue how would that fight go lol..
Just a remainder, that Nhenha lost to Skorro Jr. not so long ago, even tho Skorro Jr. sustained more dmg, Nhenha was the one who retreated in the end, also Nhenha was running from Mohawk Avoca last year in his territory, both males who are prob least impressive then OM was..
Tinyo also occasionaly beat Nhenha in fights for mating rights in recent years, so lets not form a narrative that Nhenha is some unbeatable machine, every lion, regardless how strong and big he is, lost a battle at some point in his life.
Also, this is offtopic and pointless discussion.
RE: BBoys sons - BA0701 - 07-04-2022
(07-04-2022, 01:23 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: 2. Your Othawa Male comment comes off as bias. The Othawa Male was around the Bboys when Nhenha was 8-11 years old and the Othawa Male was around 3-6 years old. Looking at current events Nhenha is giving injuries to lions in their primes at the age of 12 years old whilst walking away unscathed. The Othawa Male would have been around Prime Nhenha. So if you wanna go by facts, Nhenha should he stronger, more experienced and confident in a 1v1 to take the Othawa Male who he chased multiple times and eventually played a part in killing. In the Othawa Males death, Nhenha only seemed to have receive a limp which he recovered from in less than a month. So I would disagree with you that the Othawa Male would come out on top.
He was talking about the fight last year, not prime Nhenha.
Lets not get in another pointless discussion "my favorite lion is stronger then yours".. Pls.
Nhenha and OM never fought in a 1 vs 1 , so we have absolutely 0 clue how would that fight go lol..
Just a remainder, that Nhenha lost to Skorro Jr. not so long ago, even tho Skorro Jr. sustained more dmg, Nhenha was the one who retreated in the end, also Nhenha was running from Mohawk Avoca last year in his territory, both males who are prob least impressive then OM was..
Tinyo also occasionaly beat Nhenha in fights for mating rights in recent years, so lets not form a narrative that Nhenha is some unbeatable machine, every lion, regardless how strong and big he is, lost a battle at some point in his life.
Also, this is offtopic and pointless discussion.
I agree with @Tr1x24 . I should not have voiced my thoughts on the matter, which resulted in this OT conversation.
RE: BBoys sons - Tr1x24 - 07-04-2022
(07-04-2022, 01:50 AM)BA0701 Wrote: I agree with @Tr1x24 . I should not have voiced my thoughts on the matter, which resulted in this OT conversation.
Apperantly everything about Nhenha topic gets "heated" up, so better avoid that.
RE: BBoys sons - Potato - 07-04-2022
(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: I assume he is giving the Nkuhuma Male the chance to mate now so he probably injured the Nkuhuma Male in defense of himself.Yeah, he went to fight with Nkuuchma male for mating rights over female and in the middle of fight he just decided "I could beat him, but insteed I will be kind and let him mate" Makes total sense...
(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: Just because the Nkuhuma Male was with the Ximungwhe female does not mean he dominated NhenhaIt does.
(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: Nhenha has done most of the matingDisscussion was on who came on top on this particular confrontation, not which of the two males is overall the more dominant one.
(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: Othawa Male who he chased multiple times
Make up story.