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RE: The Birmingham Males - sik94 - 06-16-2017
The birminghams took over their first territory pretty early because of their numbers and they are just now starting to look really good. Historically we know that in the sabi sands big coalitions like the birminghams generally move toward the western block as they get older, but that's maybe two years from now. I think a new coalition will get their hands on the Majingalane territory first and then the birminghams will move in later on.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Abomai - 06-16-2017
the mantimahle are the ones to keep an eye on.
RE: The Birmingham Males - T Rabbit - 06-16-2017
(06-16-2017, 12:29 AM)Lionpower Wrote: Wow..the boys are looking great. I'm curious if they are gonna challenge the Magjingis anytime soon...
i think the majingilanes are challenging the bboys first as they walked over mala mala and nkorho many times in the last months while the bboys never dared enter in majingilanes area until now!
RE: The Birmingham Males - Ngala - 06-16-2017
Photo and information credits: Nombekana Safaris and Wildlife Photography
"While I was in the Sabie Sands recently on a photo Safari I was privileged to photograph a coalition of males called the Birmingham males. Truly magnificent specimens and they gave us such a good show."
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Ngala - 06-17-2017
From Londolozi Game Reserve, The Week in Pictures #288 by Nick Kleer:
"The Birmingham male coalition made an appearance in the northern sections of Londolozi this week. Could they be looking to expand territory? Should they do so, it will only further confuse the already upset lion dynamics on Londolozi at the moment. Only time will tell if they continue to push south."
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Gamiz - 06-19-2017
Birmingham male #2 Nhena - Djuma Reserve - June 13,2017
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Ngala - 06-19-2017
Photo and information credits: Tristan and Grayson Dicks Wildlife Photography
"Nhenha in the mist yesterday morning hunting warthogs, such an epic sighting! #safarilive"
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RE: The Birmingham Males - HouseOfLions - 06-20-2017
(06-16-2017, 04:15 AM)T Rabbit Wrote:I don't think that means challenging! Challenging is when you enter another Lions territory and make your presence known and there is no evidence that the manginjis did that. As sik94 said before, they got their territory when they were young and thus, are content with it but if they were to expand, the manginjis are not going to be able to stop them! In fact, no coalition currently in the sabi will be able to stop them.(06-16-2017, 12:29 AM)Lionpower Wrote: Wow..the boys are looking great. I'm curious if they are gonna challenge the Magjingis anytime soon...
i think the majingilanes are challenging the bboys first as they walked over mala mala and nkorho many times in the last months while the bboys never dared enter in majingilanes area until now!
RE: The Birmingham Males - HouseOfLions - 06-21-2017
(06-16-2017, 04:15 AM)T Rabbit Wrote:That does not mean "challenging" though! When you challenge someone, you - "call someone to participate in a competitive situation or fight to decide who is superior in terms of ability or strength" - and the manignjis haven't done this to the BBoys. Coming and leaving their territory, without making yourself known is not an act of challenge, it is like they are doing recon and scoping their enemy out.(06-16-2017, 12:29 AM)Lionpower Wrote: Wow..the boys are looking great. I'm curious if they are gonna challenge the Magjingis anytime soon...
i think the majingilanes are challenging the bboys first as they walked over mala mala and nkorho many times in the last months while the bboys never dared enter in majingilanes area until now!
RE: The Birmingham Males - T Rabbit - 06-23-2017
(06-20-2017, 12:45 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote:I mean the majingilanes were sighted 2 or 3 times walking and roaring over mala mala and even nkorho! nkorho is completely inside bboys territory! they also chased the nkuhumas at elephant plains and chased away the bboys from a kill. and only 2 majingilanes were there against the 4 bboys according to ranger of EP. i mean the bboys are 4 and big but they dont have the agressive experience of majingilanes who faced a lot o battles and killed many powerfull enemies like mapogos and selatis. anyway the bboys have the time in their sides and they are only waiting for the best moment to expand! but they dont have the confidence and experience to attack and defeat the majingilane men! any moment they will look for the easier way to expand and the easy way is not the majingilane area but the avocas or matshapiri areas.(06-16-2017, 04:15 AM)T Rabbit Wrote:I don't think that means challenging! Challenging is when you enter another Lions territory and make your presence known and there is no evidence that the manginjis did that. As sik94 said before, they got their territory when they were young and thus, are content with it but if they were to expand, the manginjis are not going to be able to stop them! In fact, no coalition currently in the sabi will be able to stop them.(06-16-2017, 12:29 AM)Lionpower Wrote: Wow..the boys are looking great. I'm curious if they are gonna challenge the Magjingis anytime soon...
i think the majingilanes are challenging the bboys first as they walked over mala mala and nkorho many times in the last months while the bboys never dared enter in majingilanes area until now!
RE: The Birmingham Males - HouseOfLions - 06-24-2017
(06-23-2017, 02:09 AM)T Rabbit Wrote:(06-20-2017, 12:45 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote:I mean the majingilanes were sighted 2 or 3 times walking and roaring over mala mala and even nkorho! nkorho is completely inside bboys territory! they also chased the nkuhumas at elephant plains and chased away the bboys from a kill. and only 2 majingilanes were there against the 4 bboys according to ranger of EP. i mean the bboys are 4 and big but they dont have the agressive experience of majingilanes who faced a lot o battles and killed many powerfull enemies like mapogos and selatis. anyway the bboys have the time in their sides and they are only waiting for the best moment to expand! but they dont have the confidence and experience to attack and defeat the majingilane men! any moment they will look for the easier way to expand and the easy way is not the majingilane area but the avocas or matshapiri areas.(06-16-2017, 04:15 AM)T Rabbit Wrote:I don't think that means challenging! Challenging is when you enter another Lions territory and make your presence known and there is no evidence that the manginjis did that. As sik94 said before, they got their territory when they were young and thus, are content with it but if they were to expand, the manginjis are not going to be able to stop them! In fact, no coalition currently in the sabi will be able to stop them.(06-16-2017, 12:29 AM)Lionpower Wrote: Wow..the boys are looking great. I'm curious if they are gonna challenge the Magjingis anytime soon...
i think the majingilanes are challenging the bboys first as they walked over mala mala and nkorho many times in the last months while the bboys never dared enter in majingilanes area until now!
The manginjis have never beaten the mapogos, they only beat kinky tail. Then they fought 2 West Mapogos - Rusta and PB. There was never a full on Mapogos vs manginjis fight. And again, they never beat the selati as a 4 vs 4, they caught each selati alone (in a 4 vs 1) and then beat them. And this was only after hank died, before that, they never dared challenge the selati males. In all their fights, it was them outnumbering the enemies in either a 1 vs 4 or a 2 vs 4. it was never a 4 vs 4.
And that incident of 2 manginjis scaring away 3 BBoys has no evidence - only hearsay from rangers. And they don't need experience, they have power and outnumber the manignjis 3 to 4. Not only that, the manginjis are too old to do anything now. The selati males also didn't have experience when they challenged the 3 remaining Mapogos but they STILL DID. And the BBoys do have confidence now, they have been dominant males for a while and are IN THEIR PRIME. When they first came into power, they weren't.
And how are the manginjis not easy target? They are all 12/13 years old, they are way past their prime and they are outnumbered! They are the easiest target in the sabi at the moment! And we don't know how the BBoys will expand but if they do engage the manginjis, the manginjis will be either put down or will be forced to escape for their lives. This incident is very much like the 3 Mapogos vs the selati males. The Mapogos were also very old and they were also outnumbered 3 to 4. If they (BBoys) were to challenge, the manginjis are not doing anything.
And to be honest, the manginjis have been lucky that a large coalition hasn't come into the sabi to challenge them since they took the west (except the Bboys). And they got REALLY lucky when the Matimbas split. That is the main reason why they have stayed in power for so long!
RE: The Birmingham Males - Gamiz - 06-24-2017
Birmingham Tinyo - Elephant Plains Game Lodge - 22 Jun 2017
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RE: The Birmingham Males - Agerceno - 06-24-2017
(06-23-2017, 02:09 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: I mean the majingilanes were sighted 2 or 3 times walking and roaring over mala mala and even nkorho! nkorho is completely inside bboys territory! they also chased the nkuhumas at elephant plains and chased away the bboys from a kill. and only 2 majingilanes were there against the 4 bboys according to ranger of EP. i mean the bboys are 4 and big but they dont have the agressive experience of majingilanes who faced a lot o battles and killed many powerfull enemies like mapogos and selatis. anyway the bboys have the time in their sides and they are only waiting for the best moment to expand! but they dont have the confidence and experience to attack and defeat the majingilane men! any moment they will look for the easier way to expand and the easy way is not the majingilane area but the avocas or matshapiri areas.
I don't know where you get your information from, because everything you just said is wrong.
The majingilanes have not been viewed on MalaMala inside Bboy territory. It has probably been about 4 years since the Majingilanes have been viewed on Nkorho.
When the 2 Majingilanes chased the Bboys off the buffalo carcass, it was 3 Bboys not 4. Also Elephant Plains is not Bboy territory.
The last thing you got wrong is the talk of the Bboys expanding their territory, they already have a territory which is too big to manage if they face another strong coalition. If the Bboys make a serious move South West they will be shifting territory not expanding.
RE: The Birmingham Males - T Rabbit - 06-28-2017
(06-24-2017, 05:59 AM)Agerceno Wrote:(06-23-2017, 02:09 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: I mean the majingilanes were sighted 2 or 3 times walking and roaring over mala mala and even nkorho! nkorho is completely inside bboys territory! they also chased the nkuhumas at elephant plains and chased away the bboys from a kill. and only 2 majingilanes were there against the 4 bboys according to ranger of EP. i mean the bboys are 4 and big but they dont have the agressive experience of majingilanes who faced a lot o battles and killed many powerfull enemies like mapogos and selatis. anyway the bboys have the time in their sides and they are only waiting for the best moment to expand! but they dont have the confidence and experience to attack and defeat the majingilane men! any moment they will look for the easier way to expand and the easy way is not the majingilane area but the avocas or matshapiri areas.
I don't know where you get your information from, because everything you just said is wrong.
The majingilanes have not been viewed on MalaMala inside Bboy territory. It has probably been about 4 years since the Majingilanes have been viewed on Nkorho.
When the 2 Majingilanes chased the Bboys off the buffalo carcass, it was 3 Bboys not 4. Also Elephant Plains is not Bboy territory.
The last thing you got wrong is the talk of the Bboys expanding their territory, they already have a territory which is too big to manage if they face another strong coalition. If the Bboys make a serious move South West they will be shifting territory not expanding.
i think you need some update bro! the majingilanes were on nkorho in the christimas of last year 2016! just take a look at this nkorho article:
"24 December (morning)- An awesome Christmas eve morning was spent with the three majingalane males who had killed two buffalo. They eventually lay down to rest in the shade of some thick bush."
you can look at the beautifull face of dark mane resting at the middle of bboys heart territory. the link of that is here:
https://www.facebook.com/Majingilane.Lions/posts/1370139443017103
and you are justing report details that not change anything what i said. kinky tail, pb and rasta are members of mapogo coalition. does not matter if they fought together or not with majingilanes.
RE: The Birmingham Males - Agerceno - 06-28-2017
(06-28-2017, 02:58 AM)T Rabbit Wrote: i think you need some update bro! the majingilanes were on nkorho in the christimas of last year 2016! just take a look at this nkorho article:
"24 December (morning)- An awesome Christmas eve morning was spent with the three majingalane males who had killed two buffalo. They eventually lay down to rest in the shade of some thick bush."
you can look at the beautifull face of dark mane resting at the middle of bboys heart territory. the link of that is here:
https://www.facebook.com/Majingilane.Lions/posts/1370139443017103
and you are justing report details that not change anything what i said. kinky tail, pb and rasta are members of mapogo coalition. does not matter if they fought together or not with majingilanes.
1. I didn't mention the Magogo, you replied to the wrong person.
2. Nkorho has traversing rights for other properties. All of Nkorho's recent sightings of the Majingilanes have been on Elephant Plains, Simbambili & maybe Arathusa.
3. The sighting you linked to was on Elephant Plains. Saturday, 24 December 2016 - Three Majingi male lions feeding on two separate buffalo kills on Simbambili firebreak