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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-13-2021

Apparently not that far since they found his body pretty close to the border where he crossed, probably only had enough strength to hobble a short distance, from what londolozi wrote it sounds like he was possibly still alive the night after he crossed over

Quote:We watched as the determined male eventually crossed our eastern boundary at speed. We were disappointed we didn’t get to see some interaction but we left the area wondering what the future might hold for him.
The next morning we searched for any sign of him crossing back but found no tracks. Not one.
Three days later, a male lion carcass was found close to the boundary where he crossed.

Don't think Hyenas found him either, since all the body parts were still there, you'd expect them to each take a body part and run with it

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Duco Ndona - 05-13-2021

Honestly. I keep hearing speculation on details that contradict each other.
There is talk of lionesses being seen wounded presumably during the battle. The question of whether there signs of a battle on the spot he died at or whether he walked around for a bit.
The general timeline and location of events.

It probably will help if we take a pause to get our facts straight. 

Though sadly the scavenging effects of other animals and time itself likely already destroyed most of the evidence when he was found. 
So sadly all we probably will know is that he died, that likely Nhenha was involved and that it was violent.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 05-13-2021

(05-13-2021, 10:21 AM)Hairy tummy Wrote: I dont think size makes that much of a difference, remember big boy charleston v bent spine? I think bent spine got the better of altercation.has anybody seen a 1 v 1 adult male lions that was very one sided?

Size doesnt matter in a 1 vs 1 when both males are adult and fully grown , they cant kill each other, and in 1 vs 2 also doesnt matter, because lone male cant win regardless how big and strong he is..

Nhenha and OM are very close in size (you have pictures of both with infertile female) , so it doesnt matter and this discussion is pointless..

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-13-2021

The oldest mhangeni cub I believe, tough times ahead for this one 



RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-14-2021

Othawa babus by monicadowie


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - felinefan - 05-14-2021

(05-13-2021, 03:19 PM)Any word on how the Mhangheni pride is reacting to its missing pride leader?  I imagine with at least a couple of lionesses denning, the pride is a bit fragmented right now. Wrote: The oldest mhangeni cub I believe, tough times ahead for this one 



RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-14-2021

(05-14-2021, 08:54 AM)felinefan Wrote: Any word on how the Mhangheni pride is reacting to its missing pride leader?  I imagine with at  least a couple of lionesses denning, the pride is a bit fragmented right now.

Probably doing fine, Pride males come and go.

They'll have trouble if some males show up in the area, but with Othawa male being a solo it probably wouldn't have changed anything

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-14-2021

Talamatis snagged a waterbuck this morning on wildearth 


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-15-2021

No pictures yet, but the guys over at @lionsightings got word from Aidan Dunlop that two of the Styx Lionesses have given birth, 7 cubs now in the pride

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - sundarbans - 05-15-2021

(05-12-2021, 10:56 PM)Psyckoo Wrote: (I don’t include Vurhami males on that, they are special, they don't learn, that another problem with them...)

Who are the Vurhami males and what happened to them?

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T I N O - 05-15-2021

(05-15-2021, 05:23 AM)sundarbans Wrote:
(05-12-2021, 10:56 PM)Psyckoo Wrote: (I don’t include Vurhami males on that, they are special, they don't learn, that another problem with them...)

Who are the Vurhami males and what happened to them?

The Vurhami were a coalition of six young males that entered in Mjejane males territory in mid last year, they were killed by the three dominant males, one by one with the course of the time, at this stage, only the bigger Vurhami male is alive

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Gavskrr - 05-15-2021

(05-15-2021, 05:23 AM)sundarbans Wrote:
(05-12-2021, 10:56 PM)Psyckoo Wrote: (I don’t include Vurhami males on that, they are special, they don't learn, that another problem with them...)

Who are the Vurhami males and what happened to them?

The context is of young nomadic males who remained in a territory even after the death of their siblings, which led to the almost end of all the vurhami, leaving only one. 

what @Psyckoo meant with "do not learn", the last survivor remains in the territory even after everything that happened to his brothers which is kind of inexplicable.

You can read more on the topic in the topic coalitions in the Kruger national park, on page 249 there is an account of the death of Mbilu, one of the last vurhami

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 05-15-2021

Did the Birminghams take the Kambulas while the Majingilanes were still alive or after they died?

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 05-15-2021

(05-15-2021, 12:40 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Did the Birminghams take the Kambulas while the Majingilanes were still alive or after they died?

After, Bboys first mated with Mhanghenis, then abandoned Mhangenis for Kambulas.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Potato - 05-15-2021

(05-15-2021, 12:40 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Did the Birminghams take the Kambulas while the Majingilanes were still alive or after they died?

BIrminghams started to move further down Londolozi and Mala Mala in mid 2017. Untill around end of 2017 they firmily took control over central Mala Mala and southern Londolozi. In the mean time they also killed cubs in Kambula pride sired by Majingilanes. Birminghams started to mate with Kambula females in early 2018, around same time Majingilanes passed away.