(05-17-2024, 04:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Personally, and yes subjectively, but I am not sure that the PCM or the Ndzengas want to mess with each other, otherwise we'd have seen the PCMs move east and go for the Kambulas, the biggest prize in all of SS, or we'd see the Nwas moving west to try and conquer all of the prides over there, we can toss the Gijimas in that mix as well. None of these three are pushing towards any of the others, I believe it is because the risk of doing so outweighs the possible reward. There is a lot of young cubs all around, so it would not take a lot to get drive those females into estrus, but regardless of which duo we are talking about, to go after any of those prides is to risk everything you have, I think they all understand the strength of the guardians that would await them.

We've seen, just recenty, some interactions between the Nkhulus and the Gijimas, it seems the Gijimas are more comfortable taking their chances with a splintered group of 6 than to push into the PCMs territory, but we haven't seen the PCMs moving into Gijima territory either.

(05-17-2024, 04:52 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(05-17-2024, 04:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Personally, and yes subjectively, but I am not sure that the PCM or the Ndzengas want to mess with each other, otherwise we'd have seen the PCMs move east and go for the Kambulas, the biggest prize in all of SS, or we'd see the Nwas moving west to try and conquer all of the prides over there, we can toss the Gijimas in that mix as well. None of these three are pushing towards any of the others, I believe it is because the risk of doing so outweighs the possible reward. There is a lot of young cubs all around, so it would not take a lot to get drive those females into estrus, but regardless of which duo we are talking about, to go after any of those prides is to risk everything you have, I think they all understand the strength of the guardians that would await them.

We've seen, just recenty, some interactions between the Nkhulus and the Gijimas, it seems the Gijimas are more comfortable taking their chances with a splintered group of 6 than to push into the PCMs territory, but we haven't seen the PCMs moving into Gijima territory either.

I believe these 3 coalitions haven’t recently had any altercations with each other simply because it hasn’t made sense doing so. Gijimas have 3 prides to mate with, Ndzengas were consistently siring cubs with Kambula females while also courting Nkuhuma females and atleast one Talamati female on the side. Gijimas also had 2 prides to mate with. 

Nkuhuma Pride is where it gets interesting, if the PCMs stay pursuing them, as we know Ndzengas love to go North when they hear too much commotion. Just so happens they’d be crossing paths with a much different duo than they’re used to.

Don’t want to go too much into detail about the last paragraph being this is a thread for the PCMs, but I’m not completely sure the Gijimas latest excursion in Nkhulu territory started off as them pushing for more territory. We’ve certainly seen them do that before when they were met by 5 Nkhulu males. I had heard Nkhulus interacted with the Styx Pride first which most likely caught the attention of both Gijimas males who then chased them not only out of their own territory but throughout Nkhulu territory. This is where they prolly ran into the Sand River Pride.

(05-17-2024, 05:38 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(05-17-2024, 04:52 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(05-17-2024, 04:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Personally, and yes subjectively, but I am not sure that the PCM or the Ndzengas want to mess with each other, otherwise we'd have seen the PCMs move east and go for the Kambulas, the biggest prize in all of SS, or we'd see the Nwas moving west to try and conquer all of the prides over there, we can toss the Gijimas in that mix as well. None of these three are pushing towards any of the others, I believe it is because the risk of doing so outweighs the possible reward. There is a lot of young cubs all around, so it would not take a lot to get drive those females into estrus, but regardless of which duo we are talking about, to go after any of those prides is to risk everything you have, I think they all understand the strength of the guardians that would await them.

We've seen, just recenty, some interactions between the Nkhulus and the Gijimas, it seems the Gijimas are more comfortable taking their chances with a splintered group of 6 than to push into the PCMs territory, but we haven't seen the PCMs moving into Gijima territory either.

I believe these 3 coalitions haven’t recently had any altercations with each other simply because it hasn’t made sense doing so. Gijimas have 3 prides to mate with, Ndzengas were consistently siring cubs with Kambula females while also courting Nkuhuma females and atleast one Talamati female on the side. Gijimas also had 2 prides to mate with. 

Nkuhuma Pride is where it gets interesting, if the PCMs stay pursuing them, as we know Ndzengas love to go North when they hear too much commotion. Just so happens they’d be crossing paths with a much different duo than they’re used to.

Don’t want to go too much into detail about the last paragraph being this is a thread for the PCMs, but I’m not completely sure the Gijimas latest excursion in Nkhulu territory started off as them pushing for more territory. We’ve certainly seen them do that before when they were met by 5 Nkhulu males. I had heard Nkhulus interacted with the Styx Pride first which most likely caught the attention of both Gijimas males who then chased them not only out of their own territory but throughout Nkhulu territory. This is where they prolly ran into the Sand River Pride.

Sabi Sands is currently a beehive of activity in every direction. We all say it so much, it has become a bit of a cliche, but there is absolutely interesting times ahead, all over the entire reserve.

(05-17-2024, 05:56 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: That cut was WAY too close to the eye

(05-17-2024, 06:09 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote:

(05-17-2024, 05:38 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(05-17-2024, 04:52 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(05-17-2024, 04:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Personally, and yes subjectively, but I am not sure that the PCM or the Ndzengas want to mess with each other, otherwise we'd have seen the PCMs move east and go for the Kambulas, the biggest prize in all of SS, or we'd see the Nwas moving west to try and conquer all of the prides over there, we can toss the Gijimas in that mix as well. None of these three are pushing towards any of the others, I believe it is because the risk of doing so outweighs the possible reward. There is a lot of young cubs all around, so it would not take a lot to get drive those females into estrus, but regardless of which duo we are talking about, to go after any of those prides is to risk everything you have, I think they all understand the strength of the guardians that would await them.

We've seen, just recenty, some interactions between the Nkhulus and the Gijimas, it seems the Gijimas are more comfortable taking their chances with a splintered group of 6 than to push into the PCMs territory, but we haven't seen the PCMs moving into Gijima territory either.

I believe these 3 coalitions haven’t recently had any altercations with each other simply because it hasn’t made sense doing so. Gijimas have 3 prides to mate with, Ndzengas were consistently siring cubs with Kambula females while also courting Nkuhuma females and atleast one Talamati female on the side. Gijimas also had 2 prides to mate with. 

Nkuhuma Pride is where it gets interesting, if the PCMs stay pursuing them, as we know Ndzengas love to go North when they hear too much commotion. Just so happens they’d be crossing paths with a much different duo than they’re used to.

Don’t want to go too much into detail about the last paragraph being this is a thread for the PCMs, but I’m not completely sure the Gijimas latest excursion in Nkhulu territory started off as them pushing for more territory. We’ve certainly seen them do that before when they were met by 5 Nkhulu males. I had heard Nkhulus interacted with the Styx Pride first which most likely caught the attention of both Gijimas males who then chased them not only out of their own territory but throughout Nkhulu territory. This is where they prolly ran into the Sand River Pride.

Sabi Sands is currently a beehive of activity in every direction. We all say it so much, it has become a bit of a cliche, but there is absolutely interesting times ahead, all over the entire reserve.

I wish I could figure out how to get there.  I want to go.. don't know where to stay, don't know how long... Flying from Northeast US is a day on a plane each way, and if I go to South Africa, I need to visit Kevin Richardson's reserve, and then I want to go to Sabi... Sorry for the off topic... I'll stop.  By the time I get there though, it'll be 6 or 7 other threads we'll be typing in.