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RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Mapokser - 04-30-2024
Ntsevu female (K2) attacked one of her nephews over a kill, I hope the cub didn't sustain any injuries:
These Ntsevu females are way too aggressive.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - criollo2mil - 04-30-2024
(04-30-2024, 02:55 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Ntsevu female (K2) attacked one of her nephews over a kill, I hope the cub didn't sustain any injuries:
These Ntsevu females are way too aggressive.
Yeah, I also saw one of the Kambula cubs has already lost an eye…,probably because of similar behavior
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - BA0701 - 04-30-2024
(04-30-2024, 05:30 AM)criollo2mil Wrote:(04-30-2024, 02:55 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Ntsevu female (K2) attacked one of her nephews over a kill, I hope the cub didn't sustain any injuries:
These Ntsevu females are way too aggressive.
Yeah, I also saw one of the Kambula cubs has already lost an eye…,probably because of similar behavior
Rather shocking behavior, coming from a female especially. Such a shame.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Mapokser - 04-30-2024
I remember not long ago before both prides split for good, K3 was with her previous litter ( of which one is alive in the Kambula pride ), they were with the Kambula pride and K3 got up and straight up murdered one of the cubs from the other females for apparently no reason at all as reported by Londolozi, saying they didn't know why she attacked the cub. She didn't kill the cub at the moment, but IIRC broke its back and it died later on. It wasn't even a feeding frenzy nor anything.
And years before there was a report where one Kambula female killed the cubs of her sister, everybody assumed it was K6 because she's cubless and the most aggressive, but now it's impossible to tell. K6 was also rough with the Ndhzenga cubs and got in fights with the other females over it, possibly being one of the reasons why she split.
Males killing their own cubs is already very rare and when it happens it's by "accident", a paw swipe that ended up being stronger than it should during the feeding frenzy, but I had never seen lionesses killing cubs in their own pride, I've seen aunts who abandoned their nephews after they lost their mother, I've seen the Ximhungwe females attacking a missing subadult who lost his mother and returned to the pride after a few weeks ( eventually killing it with Mr.T after he kept trying to be accept back ), but the Kambula/Ntsevu females are the first ones I see killing their own pride cubs for seemingly no reason, and also acting very aggressive towards cubs sometimes.
Normally even the aunts adopt the cubs in a pride as their own and never even slap them, even with the males, they'll almost never slap a persistent small cub over the table, as they know it could kill them.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Ttimemarti - 04-30-2024
The only explanation would be they are all just aggressive lions all 6 OG kambula girls aggressive their mothers the mhangenis aggressive their fathers aggressive grandfathers aggressive I’ve never seen so much aggression in a entire bloodline even the Birmingham kambula girls are aggressive I mean all lions are be these ones are insane and I guess numbers have something to do with it they’ve had the biggest pride in sabi sands for like 10 years now a lot of competition I guess but yeah
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Duco Ndona - 04-30-2024
I think it looks much worse than it actually was.
The cub doesnt seem to hurt or shocked by it, and just becouse lions are growling like that doesnt mean they are violent or in pain.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Mapokser - 04-30-2024
Cub seems to be limping after it, but hopefully it was nothing.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - BA0701 - 04-30-2024
(04-30-2024, 10:22 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Cub seems to be limping after it, but hopefully it was nothing.
Yes, seems to have an issues with it's back leg(s). It was definitely more than growling, she swiped at the cub, with claws extended, and stuck the cub with at least one claw.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Duco Ndona - 04-30-2024
Even that is pretty normal.
Its not for nothing the amount of feeding related facial scarring is used as a tool to guess age.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - BA0701 - 04-30-2024
(04-30-2024, 10:26 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Even that is pretty normal.
Its not for nothing the amount of feeding related facial scarring is used as a tool to guess age.
Of course, such scrums happen at every meal, but not to such little cubs. I believe that is the point being made.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - criollo2mil - 05-01-2024
The now one-eyed Kambula cub and a sibling
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - criollo2mil - 05-01-2024
(04-30-2024, 08:31 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I remember not long ago before both prides split for good, K3 was with her previous litter ( of which one is alive in the Kambula pride ), they were with the Kambula pride and K3 got up and straight up murdered one of the cubs from the other females for apparently no reason at all as reported by Londolozi, saying they didn't know why she attacked the cub. She didn't kill the cub at the moment, but IIRC broke its back and it died later on. It wasn't even a feeding frenzy nor anything.
Yeah, K2 however is the female that has the cub in Kambula. I think it was K9 that hurt that cub that eventually died. But I’m fuzzy on it. Not 100 certain. My memory sux.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - BA0701 - 05-01-2024
(05-01-2024, 05:10 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: The now one-eyed Kambula cub and a sibling
I do hate seeing that. Looks like a young male cub. though I hesitate to say that as many of us were saying the same thing about the Ximungwe female's previous cub, as she had the same fluff on her neck. We, obviously found out later she was a she.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - Mapokser - 05-01-2024
@criollo2mil Wait K2, are you sure? K3 is the mother, no? We were even discussing how she was having a new litter despite having a living cub.
K2 never had any cubs by Ndhzengas IIRC.
RE: Kambula/Ntsevu Pride - criollo2mil - 05-01-2024
(05-01-2024, 05:48 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @criollo2mil Wait K2, are you sure? K3 is the mother, no? We were even discussing how she was having a new litter despite having a living cub.
K2 never had any cubs by Ndhzengas IIRC.
Yep, I’m pretty certain it’s K2 cubs cause what we said was that when she has a new litter as an Ntsevu lioness, she will have the distinction of having cubs in both prides at same time. K3 has the 3 cubs in Ntsevu today.
Her’s a screengrab from one of the videos of a great YouTube channel that does a very good job at tracking