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RE: Nkhulu males - Cath2020 - 07-11-2024
There is a case where a coalition partner killed his own blood brother. Bon jovi, son AND grandson of Sepo, did that to his partner. Their mom was the lioness paired with the well-known Lady Liuwa.... This famous lioness never could get pregnant, so the rangers introduced Sepo to help boost the lion population in the park where the last lioness lived for years alone.
RE: Nkhulu males - RookiePundit - 07-11-2024
(07-10-2024, 08:49 PM)Ngonya Wrote:(07-10-2024, 08:14 PM)RookiePundit Wrote: which one it is guys?Smudge (#1).
Really great video.Guide claims all 6 brothers are seen in Kirkman's Kamp occasionally, which is really great. Just unfortunate that we barely have any footage. Hopefully andbeyond channel can share more of them and more frequently.
She says no seventh member, he could have splited or died, and of course we know that would be DeLaporte male. Its safe to say he is gone.
I am under the impression the guide in the video (does all the episodes so far) operates more in Ngala/Timbavati and she just goes by what their andbeyond colleagues in Sabi Sands told her. Not sure how recent it is, it is just posted recently. But I concur that Dreadlocks is likely gone unless he miraculously emerges one day.
RE: Nkhulu males - Ngonya - 07-12-2024
Nkhulu x Sand River
MALAMALA GAME RESERVE | GAME REPORT | June -2024
THE SAND RIVER PRIDE = 6
- 2 ADULT FEMALES ± 5 YEARS 11 MONTHS
- 1 ADULT FEMALE 4 YEARS 5 MONTHS
- 1 SUB-ADULT FEMALE 3 YEARS 10 MONTHS
- 2 SUB-ADULT FEMALES 2 YEARS 10 MONTHS
SOUTHERN CHARLESTON
(4 sightings)
"On the 2nd, four lionesses killed an impala with the Nkhulu males at Calabash Crossing and three
individuals were seen at Charleston Rocks on the 4th. A single lioness, along with two Nkuhlu males,
killed a waterbuck at Charleston Rock on the 23rd and a single lioness was seen at Rocky Crossing two
days later. "
OTHER LIONS ENCOUNTERED:
NKUHLU MALES (4 sightings)
"Two of these males were seen with four lionesses from the Sand River pride at Calabash Crossing, where they killed an impala. One male was with two lionesses from the Sand River pride at Charleston Rock, where they killed a waterbuck. One male was seen at F-Bend Open Area on the 25th. On the 30th, all four males had a territorial dispute with the two Gijima males at Calabash Crossing. There were blows exchanged, but the Nkuhlu males managed to chase the rival males’ southwards out of their territory."
Nkhulu #3 during the altercation with the Gijimas, by Taylor Harris Photography
illustrative photo - not posted in MalaMala's official report document
*This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Nkhulu males - Ngonya - 07-12-2024
Smudge Nkhulu and Sand River Pride hunting waterbuck
RE: Nkhulu males - GhostCatP-22 - 07-12-2024
(07-11-2024, 02:23 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: There is a case where a coalition partner killed his own blood brother. Bon jovi, son AND grandson of Sepo, did that to his partner. Their mom was the lioness paired with the well-known Lady Liuwa.... This famous lioness never could get pregnant, so the rangers introduced Sepo to help boost the lion population in the park where the last lioness lived for years alone.
Yea the reserve introduced new males too soon and the existing lions were still trying to get along and raise little cubs. I love that she did have company and she was a great auntie. She was an amazing lioness! Glad to see her mentioned here.
Do you know what has been happening since?
This is slightly off topic so should we move?
RE: Nkhulu males - Ngonya - 07-12-2024
Snip Tail & Smudge Nkhulu at Kirkman's Kamp, by Heath MaClou
these two are the core of the coalition since 2023. They have a very strong bond
RE: Nkhulu males - BA0701 - 07-13-2024
(07-12-2024, 10:10 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote: This is slightly off topic so should we move?
We are always for conversations on new lions, any lions really, but especially lions we don't hear a lot about. So, if you'd like to continue the conversation in the proper thread, I think that'd be great! Thanks, my friend!
RE: Nkhulu males - Cath2020 - 07-13-2024
(07-12-2024, 10:10 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:(07-11-2024, 02:23 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: There is a case where a coalition partner killed his own blood brother. Bon jovi, son AND grandson of Sepo, did that to his partner. Their mom was the lioness paired with the well-known Lady Liuwa.... This famous lioness never could get pregnant, so the rangers introduced Sepo to help boost the lion population in the park where the last lioness lived for years alone.
Yea the reserve introduced new males too soon and the existing lions were still trying to get along and raise little cubs. I love that she did have company and she was a great auntie. She was an amazing lioness! Glad to see her mentioned here.
Do you know what has been happening since?
This is slightly off topic so should we move?
Oh, I wish I knew more info. about that area and the lions living there. It seems to be a black hole of an area to get to know the lion population. I'll share more as I discover additional facts about them. It's sad, though, that Bon Jovi killed his own blood brother as it's almost unheard of. Maybe it was a combo. of being very inbred, plus other potential stressors.
RE: Nkhulu males - Duco Ndona - 07-13-2024
Most likely it was just a case of Bon Jovi having had enough of him. Its rare, but lions are not exactly saints.
RE: Nkhulu males - Cath2020 - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 02:54 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Most likely it was just a case of Bon Jovi having had enough of him. Its rare, but lions are not exactly saints.
Did you even read the above where a post stated that other lions were introduced prematurely and that also could have been a stressor? You are very dismissive in your posts at times.
RE: Nkhulu males - BA0701 - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 02:37 AM)Cath2020 Wrote:(07-12-2024, 10:10 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:(07-11-2024, 02:23 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: There is a case where a coalition partner killed his own blood brother. Bon jovi, son AND grandson of Sepo, did that to his partner. Their mom was the lioness paired with the well-known Lady Liuwa.... This famous lioness never could get pregnant, so the rangers introduced Sepo to help boost the lion population in the park where the last lioness lived for years alone.
Yea the reserve introduced new males too soon and the existing lions were still trying to get along and raise little cubs. I love that she did have company and she was a great auntie. She was an amazing lioness! Glad to see her mentioned here.
Do you know what has been happening since?
This is slightly off topic so should we move?
Oh, I wish I knew more info. about that area and the lions living there. It seems to be a black hole of an area to get to know the lion population. I'll share more as I discover additional facts about them. It's sad, though, that Bon Jovi killed his own blood brother as it's almost unheard of. Maybe it was a combo. of being very inbred, plus other potential stressors.
Same thing happened to the Addo boys, which also was the direct result of people being involved. Matter of fact, when they relocated the three of them, the first one killed was killed by his two brothers when they awoke from the anesthesia, they had been put under in order for them to travel to their new location. Sounds like there may be one common denominator in these two instances. A conversation for a different thread, I suppose.
RE: Nkhulu males - Ngonya - 07-13-2024
Snip Tail Nkhulu roaring, asserting his dominance in Tengile
RE: Nkhulu males - Ngonya - 07-13-2024
3/6 Nkhulu males with Sand River pride females in Tengile, by Kelli Radcliffe
@Tr1x24 didn't Nkhulus kill only one Sand River lioness?
RE: Nkhulu males - Mapokser - 07-13-2024
IIRC the WILDwatch guide said a similar thing that they killed multiple SR females.
RE: Nkhulu males - BA0701 - 07-13-2024
(07-13-2024, 07:58 PM)Ngonya Wrote: 3/6 Nkhulu males with Sand River pride females in Tengile, by Kelli Radcliffe
"[...] not unusual for lions to kill lions but usually they just leave the carcasses, but this guys we saw them eat, we know, three Sand River lionesses and one young male that they ate [...]"
@Tr1x24 didn't Nkhulus kill only one Sand River lioness?
I am unsure how many SR lionesses they killed, but that sure is a nice job on the video.