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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-20-2021

Luckily the cub doesn't seem too small? Big enough to hunt small prey and bully leopards maybe

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-20-2021

Out of curiosity, which pride was the last to go extinct in sabi sands?

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-20-2021

(01-20-2021, 09:01 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Out of curiosity, which pride was the last to go extinct in sabi sands?

Charleston pride,  last female was killed in early 2017, her subadult sons survived a bit longer, 1 died in late 2017, other disapeared in 2018 after he was seen with Southern Pride.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Dark Jaguar - 01-20-2021

TSALALA PRIDE

A bit about the Mighty BB female AKA Tailess Lioness and how the accident of the cause of her missing tail happened.

By Amy Attenborough - Londolozi
https://blog.londolozi.com/2017/05/01/the-epic-story-of-the-tailless-lioness-then-and-now/


BB

''She was born in 1998 and had a difficult life as a youngster. In fact at just the age of four her mother died, leaving her as the only member of her pride. Shortly after this she gave birth to her first litter of two cubs around a rocky outcrop called Ximpalapala Koppie and miraculously raised them to independence.''


The original Tailless lioness who was born in 1998. This image was taken before her encounter with the hyenas that left her tailless.


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''Jump forward a few years to 2005 and by this point, the ‘Tailless’ lioness (who still had her tail at the time) was with her now-bigger pride (made up of her original two cubs and a younger litter of four). She had killed a zebra and all seven lions were feeding on the carcass. The commotion and noise caused by the pride feeding drew the attention of a clan of hyenas who came into the area to steal the kill. By the time rangers arrived, a fight had ensued between the lions and hyenas and the older lioness had been very severely mauled. A hyena had managed to bite her tail and remove a large chunk from the base of it. What progressed over the next few days shocked everyone as this lioness actually chewed away her own tail to curb the infection, a desperate last resort for survival. For many weeks she could hardly move and was unable to hunt. As a result she lost two of her cubs to starvation. What she gained though was an enormous amount of respect from those who witnessed her fight for her life. She had proven the extremity of her strength and resilience.''


The Tailless female after the encounter with the hyena. Subsequent to this she actually bit her own tail off.


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The Tailless female after removing her own tail. At this point the wound had begun to heal and she could move about and hunt again.


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BB's Daughter coincidentally faced the same fate.

''In 2011, the similarities between the two lionesses I speak of really began to get bizarre. One night the Tsalala Pride caught and killed a zebra beyond the southern boundary of their territory. During the night hyenas stole their carcass and when rangers found the pride the following morning, the adult lioness (Tailless lioness’ very own daughter) had had her tail bitten clean off by what we can only assume was a hyena. Within the space of a few short years, both mother and daughter had met the same fate in some eerily similar circumstances. The Tsalala Pride was in huge danger at this point because of her injury but just when rangers thought the newly injured lioness would die, the original Tailless re-joined her natal pride and helped them to kill a buffalo after ten days of not eating. After she had fed with them she returned to the Breakway Pride. Once again the Tailless lioness had come to the rescue.''

''This lack of a tail wouldn’t be the last similarity though. The way in which the original Tailless lioness chose to save cubs that weren’t her own by taking them to an area away from new dominant males looking to kill them was to be replicated by her daughter, the current Tailless lioness.''



The more recent Tailless female after losing her tail in the same set of strange circumstances as her mother.

Photograph by Adam Bannister

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June 1st, 2012 - BB on the left walking with her daughter who has a stub where her tail was. Some people refer to her as ''the younger tailless lion''.

https://www.ournaturezone.com/index.php?topic=1088.30


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T I N O - 01-20-2021

(01-20-2021, 06:43 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 06:11 PM)Tonpa Wrote: People are saying this might be the Sparta Lioness and her sub adult

Very likely it is.. Bad and sad news, subadult still too young to survive alone..


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What a sad scene, young female lying besides her weak mother and waiting her to lead ..hope this old lioness can pull it thru for some more time, young female still needs few more months, but it doesnt look good if she dont get meal immidiately..
She doesn't seems to have a broken jaw.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-20-2021

(01-20-2021, 10:32 PM)TinoArmando Wrote: She doesn't seems to have a broken jaw.

She doesnt, its just her lip hanging down.. But her canine teeths are in bad condition from latest photos..

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-20-2021

Hoping its just some swelling, maybe we'll get some better photos and information tomorrow. I'm guessing some people will go out looking for her.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - T I N O - 01-20-2021

(01-20-2021, 10:47 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 10:32 PM)TinoArmando Wrote: She doesn't seems to have a broken jaw.

She doesnt, its just her lip hanging down.. But her canine teeths are in bad condition from latest photos..

Well that's isn't a big problem.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Gijima - 01-20-2021

(01-20-2021, 11:47 PM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 10:47 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 10:32 PM)TinoArmando Wrote: She doesn't seems to have a broken jaw.

She doesnt, its just her lip hanging down.. But her canine teeths are in bad condition from latest photos..

Well that's isn't a big problem.

Yeah I’m confused. Maybe someone else officially confirmed a bad injury because both mala mala and londolozi published a post basically saying she’s fatally injury and going to pass away.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-21-2021

(01-20-2021, 11:52 PM)Gijima Wrote: Yeah I’m confused. Maybe someone else officially confirmed a bad injury because both mala mala and londolozi published a post basically saying she’s fatally injury and going to pass away.

Well idk, unless is some really recent injury.. On her latest photos 10 days ago she didn't have broken jaw, just visiable lip drop:


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As we can see, jaw is whole, just the lip/skin is hanging down, so it looks like injured..

3 days later this photo :


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If she didn't sustain some kind of injury after that, its only a drop lip..

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-21-2021

(01-20-2021, 07:45 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Luckily the cub doesn't seem too small? Big enough to hunt small prey and bully leopards maybe

Its not experienced abd strong enough to survive on its own, and its not only food, hyenas and other lions might kill her before she starves to death.. 

12 Mhangeni subadults together, older then her, didn't managed to survive on their own, only 3 survived over a year and all 3 by joining pride..

Her odds of surviving are almost 0..sadly..

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tonpa - 01-21-2021

(01-21-2021, 12:27 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(01-20-2021, 07:45 PM)Tonpa Wrote: Luckily the cub doesn't seem too small? Big enough to hunt small prey and bully leopards maybe

Its not experienced abd strong enough to survive on its own, and its not only food, hyenas and other lions might kill her before she starves to death.. 

12 Mhangeni subadults together, older then her, didn't managed to survive on their own, only 3 survived over a year and all 3 by joining pride..

Her odds of surviving are almost 0..sadly..

Thats true...

What was the story with the 12 subadults, they were expelled?

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Tr1x24 - 01-21-2021

(01-21-2021, 12:36 AM)Tonpa Wrote: Thats true...

What was the story with the 12 subadults, they were expelled?

You have the full story i posted under "Majingilane sons "  thread, page 12, when Big Boy died.. check it out.

RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Potato - 01-21-2021

One of the 'Tumbela' males looking after several 'Othawa' females...


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RE: Lions of Sabi Sands - Potato - 01-21-2021

The End of an Era?
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We have received reports from within the Kruger National Park that the last surviving lioness of the Eyrefield pride has suffered an injury that will prove fatal. Her 18 month old cub is too young to survive on its own. So, barring a miracle, the sun will soon set on a pride thats history on MalaMala is second only to the Styx pride.
This Eyrefield pride has had an illustrious and long career on MalaMala starting way back in the early nineties. In the early parts of the 21st century the pride numbered 19, with 6 young males (Mlowathi males / Mapogos) who would go on to gain huge notoriety with their aggression and total dominance over the region. But like all mighty prides the dynamics shift and the same happened with the Eyrefield pride. Over the following years theirs numbers dwindled to the aforementioned mother and cub.
This particular lioness will be remembered as being the largest female in recent memory and one of the best buffalo hunters.


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