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RE: Avoca male lions - Tr1x24 - 08-30-2020
(08-29-2020, 11:11 PM)sik94 Wrote: Did some digging about this. Those sacs are called Hygromas, they are not tumors and it has nothing to do with TB either. They usually grow on elbows of animals like dogs and lions after repeated injuries to the affected area, and are harmless majority of the time. This will not affect Mohawk's health.
Yea, i was saying the same thing.. Not all lumps are related to TB..
RE: Avoca male lions - sik94 - 08-30-2020
(08-30-2020, 03:34 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(08-29-2020, 11:11 PM)sik94 Wrote: Did some digging about this. Those sacs are called Hygromas, they are not tumors and it has nothing to do with TB either. They usually grow on elbows of animals like dogs and lions after repeated injuries to the affected area, and are harmless majority of the time. This will not affect Mohawk's health.
Yea, i was saying the same thing.. Not all lumps are related to TB..
and neither are they tumors.
RE: Avoca male lions - Potato - 08-30-2020
The Avoca male lions remain firmly in control of a majority of our concession.
The future looks bright for them and the Sand River Pride, who potentially have a few more cubs on the way soon.
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RE: Avoca male lions - Potato - 09-04-2020
The male lion dynamics are set to heat up over the next year, With the Avoca males. (one of which is pictured here) pressing into northern Londolozi more and more, a coalition of four just beyond our southern boundaries, and the Birmingham males ageing, something must surely give…
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RE: Avoca male lions - Selati - 09-05-2020
(09-04-2020, 11:29 PM)Potato Wrote: The male lion dynamics are set to heat up over the next year, With the Avoca males. (one of which is pictured here) pressing into northern Londolozi more and more, a coalition of four just beyond our southern boundaries, and the Birmingham males ageing, something must surely give…Heard he was roaring in Northern Londolozi and may have chased the N.Avocas.
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RE: Avoca male lions - T I N O - 09-05-2020
(09-05-2020, 03:57 AM)Selati Wrote:(09-04-2020, 11:29 PM)Potato Wrote: The male lion dynamics are set to heat up over the next year, With the Avoca males. (one of which is pictured here) pressing into northern Londolozi more and more, a coalition of four just beyond our southern boundaries, and the Birmingham males ageing, something must surely give…Heard he was roaring in Northern Londolozi and may have chased the N.Avocas.
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Avoca male Blondie.
So apparently the BBoys chased them?
RE: Avoca male lions - Tr1x24 - 09-05-2020
(09-04-2020, 11:29 PM)Potato Wrote: The male lion dynamics are set to heat up over the next year, With the Avoca males. (one of which is pictured here) pressing into northern Londolozi more and more, a coalition of four just beyond our southern boundaries, and the Birmingham males ageing, something must surely give…
This was posted by Londolozi?
They are again forcing some narratives it seems..
RE: Avoca male lions - Selati - 09-05-2020
(09-05-2020, 04:10 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:Actually not sure. Saw it on a couple of pages on Facebook. Not always the best source. They appear to think this is a picture of Nhena and that he was roaring in Northern Londolozi. Checked Londolozi Blog an James Tyrrell was saying in the comments that they could have been chased.(09-05-2020, 03:57 AM)Selati Wrote:(09-04-2020, 11:29 PM)Potato Wrote: The male lion dynamics are set to heat up over the next year, With the Avoca males. (one of which is pictured here) pressing into northern Londolozi more and more, a coalition of four just beyond our southern boundaries, and the Birmingham males ageing, something must surely give…Heard he was roaring in Northern Londolozi and may have chased the N.Avocas.
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Avoca male Blondie.
So apparently the BBoys chased them?
RE: Avoca male lions - Tr1x24 - 09-05-2020
(09-05-2020, 04:20 AM)Selati Wrote: Actually not sure. Saw it on a couple of pages on Facebook. Not always the best source. They appear to think this is a picture of Nhena and that he was roaring in Northern Londolozi. Checked Londolozi Blog an James Tyrrell was saying in the comments that they could have been chased.
Thats Blondie..
RE: Avoca male lions - Selati - 09-05-2020
(09-05-2020, 11:38 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(09-05-2020, 04:20 AM)Selati Wrote: Actually not sure. Saw it on a couple of pages on Facebook. Not always the best source. They appear to think this is a picture of Nhena and that he was roaring in Northern Londolozi. Checked Londolozi Blog an James Tyrrell was saying in the comments that they could have been chased.
Thats Blondie..
Yeah it is. People reporting that it is Nhena on Facebook though.
RE: Avoca male lions - Potato - 09-05-2020
(09-05-2020, 04:15 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(09-04-2020, 11:29 PM)Potato Wrote: The male lion dynamics are set to heat up over the next year, With the Avoca males. (one of which is pictured here) pressing into northern Londolozi more and more, a coalition of four just beyond our southern boundaries, and the Birmingham males ageing, something must surely give…
This was posted by Londolozi?
They are again forcing some narratives it seems..
Yes
RE: Avoca male lions - titose - 09-06-2020
Two of the three ruling males of the northern sabi sands, the Nkuhuma pride males or better known as Avoca males (Blondie and Mohawk) in Chitwa Chitwa PGL!
Chitwa Chitwa Private Game Lodge
By: stevanloffler_chitwachitwa
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RE: Avoca male lions - Hairy tummy - 09-06-2020
Are the n. Avoca still carrying injuries?
RE: Avoca male lions - Selati - 09-06-2020
Here is an update on the confusion on that post by Londolozi.
Photo Credit: Zaahid Loonat
RE: Avoca male lions - titose - 09-12-2020
Are The Northern Avoca Male Lions Looking For More Territory?
James Tyrrell recently summarised the general lion dynamics on Londolozi. The male lion dynamics of the Sabi Sands have drawn special attention over the years, particularly during the reign of the mighty Mapogo coalition and thereafter the Majingilane males. Witnessing male lions fight over territory is exhilarating to say the least. At present, the two remaining Birmingham males reign over much of Londolozi and into Mala Mala to our east. They are currently siring 14 cubs in the Ntsevu pride and the single Tsalala female’s youngster in addition to those that they fathered as they ventured south away from their natal area. However, it would appear that we are nearing a shift in dynamics…
More and more often we are hearing the roars from the Avoca males to our north. From what we are told, there are three brothers, of which two spend most of their time together and the third apart. On several occasions now, two Avoca males have ventured right through northern Londolozi and even crossed south over the Sand River. This is right into the Birmingham males’ territory.
When together, we have heard them roaring from within the Birmingham males’ territory. This is a direct threat to the current dominant males reign over the area. The trouble is, the Birmingham males have established such a large territory that there are opportunities for other males to sneak in unnoticed. The Birmingham males were born in 2010 and were once a coalition of five. Now down to two and soon to be eleven years old, they are nearing the end of their tenure.
From a male lion’s perspective, the more territory that you can take over, the greater the chance of finding receptive lionesses with which you can mate and spread your genes. This is a natural progression as males grow in size and confidence. It would seem that the two Avoca males are pushing further and further into the heart of Londolozi now as they reach their prime. Just a few days ago, we found one alone on the southern bank of the Sand River. He called several times, before walking right across the breadth of the reserve in response to two lions calling in the far north east of the area. We eventually left him walking and scent marking as he headed straight towards Mala Mala to the east. This is a bold move, as he traversed right through areas in which we would normally expect to see the Ntsevu Pride and Birmingham males.
Interestingly, the Ntsevu pride has given birth to cubs on some rocky outcrops east of Londolozi in an area very close to where the Avoca males regularly reside, on the edge of the Birmingham males’ territory. If the Avoca males discover these cubs, it may spell the worst for them, but it may also draw these younger males into that area in an attempt to mate with the pride lionesses. If the Avoca males shift south, this could result in the Nkuhuma Pride also shifting south in response to the pride males, bringing them square into the middle of Londolozi’s northern parts. It would be incredible to have another large pride (in addition to Ntsevu) regularly viewed on Londolozi, however this would inevitably put pressure on the Tsalala female who is currently exploiting the somewhat “safe” area within the Sand and Manyelethi Rivers, north of the Londolozi camps.
Hypothesise as we do, but only time will tell. With two male lions in their prime potentially facing up against two ageing but experienced male lions, things could get interesting. For now we listen to the persistent roars from all sides that reverberate across the landscape…
https://blog.londolozi.com/2020/09/12/are-the-northern-avoca-male-lions-looking-for-more-territory/
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