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RE: Othawa Pride - BA0701 - 10-31-2022 (10-31-2022, 10:00 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(10-30-2022, 11:47 PM)afortich Wrote:(10-30-2022, 10:08 PM)东方琳琅STD Wrote:@criollo2mil, you're one of the greatest assets to this forum together with others. All I can say is that always remember that death is an inevitable part of the Life cycle. It's very sad but all we can do is to wish for the best to happen to Sassy and cubs but also be ready for the worst.(10-30-2022, 09:47 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-30-2022, 06:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: I’m at a lost for words. This is so crushing and devastating for me to see. I may need a break away soon I had just recently been telling my wife how crazy 2022 has been in the lion world, so much turmoil, seemingly everywhere you look. It has gotten to where just about every time I open the site, I am wondering what has happened to which pride/coalition. I would imagine that such turmoil has happened before, perhaps some of the folks who have been following lions for a lot longer than myself would have more information on other such eras, but this year has been difficult, without a doubt. RE: Othawa Pride - criollo2mil - 10-31-2022 (10-31-2022, 11:27 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-31-2022, 10:00 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(10-30-2022, 11:47 PM)afortich Wrote:(10-30-2022, 10:08 PM)东方琳琅STD Wrote:@criollo2mil, you're one of the greatest assets to this forum together with others. All I can say is that always remember that death is an inevitable part of the Life cycle. It's very sad but all we can do is to wish for the best to happen to Sassy and cubs but also be ready for the worst.(10-30-2022, 09:47 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-30-2022, 06:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: I’m at a lost for words. This is so crushing and devastating for me to see. I may need a break away soon This year has been so brutal that every morning I wake up leery of opening up my messenger because it’s been mostly bad news being sent about developments overnight. I don’t like that feeling and when I shared that with my own wife, she questioned why the heck do I do this and why not stop. I tell her I have no good answer RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 11-01-2022 (10-31-2022, 11:27 PM)BA0701 Wrote: I had just recently been telling my wife how crazy 2022 has been in the lion world, so much turmoil, seemingly everywhere you look. It has gotten to where just about every time I open the site, I am wondering what has happened to which pride/coalition. I would imagine that such turmoil has happened before, perhaps some of the folks who have been following lions for a lot longer than myself would have more information on other such eras, but this year has been difficult, without a doubt. Well, is pretty much every year, more or less, lions will die, get killed every year. 2021 was more "shocking" in Sabi Sands if you ask me, demise of Sparta pride, then sudden deaths of OM, Styx male and Tsalala female hit pretty hard. This year is mostly Othawas having bad year.. RE: Othawa Pride - criollo2mil - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 12:02 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(10-31-2022, 11:27 PM)BA0701 Wrote: I had just recently been telling my wife how crazy 2022 has been in the lion world, so much turmoil, seemingly everywhere you look. It has gotten to where just about every time I open the site, I am wondering what has happened to which pride/coalition. I would imagine that such turmoil has happened before, perhaps some of the folks who have been following lions for a lot longer than myself would have more information on other such eras, but this year has been difficult, without a doubt. 2022 started badly for me and has not let up: many many stories I’ve been close with Mhangeni Sub lost; then Bus, then Kupona, Mhangeni lioness, Limper, Talamati Stompie, PE, Aunties, Old Styx, Styx Boys, then blondie, Maybe Silvereye, Maybe last Mhangeni SubAdult then Sassy’s situation. Yes, every year it’s losses, but it seems it’s been much more unrelenting in 2022. I’m of course only speaking w Sabi Sand, which is where I follow closest. RE: Othawa Pride - afortich - 11-01-2022 (10-31-2022, 11:51 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(10-31-2022, 11:27 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-31-2022, 10:00 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(10-30-2022, 11:47 PM)afortich Wrote:(10-30-2022, 10:08 PM)东方琳琅STD Wrote:@criollo2mil, you're one of the greatest assets to this forum together with others. All I can say is that always remember that death is an inevitable part of the Life cycle. It's very sad but all we can do is to wish for the best to happen to Sassy and cubs but also be ready for the worst.(10-30-2022, 09:47 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(10-30-2022, 06:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: I’m at a lost for words. This is so crushing and devastating for me to see. I may need a break away soon The main thing is all about accepting death as part of us, it is coming sooner or later. It is normal to feel sad few days but then shake the feeling off and keep going. For example, in my personal experience with these amazing animals, I got very sad a couple of days with the death of Tsalala queen but eventually you move on, and work on preventing not to get very attach so next death doesn't affect you as bad as the previous one. RE: Othawa Pride - criollo2mil - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 12:26 AM)afortich Wrote: The main thing is all about accepting death as part of us, it is coming sooner or later. Yeah, the two most hurtful losses I’ve felt in recent times were OM and Lady Tsalala. The Disbelief sort of dampened the pain….it’s weird to explain RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 12:24 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: 2022 started badly for me and has not let up: many many stories I’ve been close with Most of those are 10-15 years old females (who lived quite long and fulfiling life as wild lions, nobody is immortal) , subs/cubs (of which death rate is very high anyways, their demises shouldnt "suprise" us as we know that only 20% of cubs and a bit higher % of subs reach adulthood) and sick lions (for them is better to be gone then to suffer without hope). Although also sad, but for me it doesnt hit as hard (because of this reasons above), as seeing adult, healthy, young lion, in his best years, go. RE: Othawa Pride - 1ofCourage - 11-01-2022 Sassy can’t find hope, help or friend. She has a feline version of PTSD. She could be wary of her own cubs by now, too, especially after Gingerella’s attack and Skorro getting in on the chase. Her brain probably relives it so she is not resting either but walks around restless for the next round. Her loses were great with one coming right on the heels of the other. She had no framework from which to rebound. She was constantly attacked. Attacks on attacks. Fierce attacks that, no doubt, were terrifying and drawn out with none to intervene. God may step in, but without that, Sassy will be welcomed by her pride elsewhere. RE: Othawa Pride - BorntobeWild - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 06:59 AM)1ofCourage Wrote: Sassy can’t find hope, help or friend. She has a feline version of PTSD. She could be wary of her own cubs by now, too, especially after Gingerella’s attack and Skorro getting in on the chase. Her brain probably relives it so she is not resting either but walks around restless for the next round. Make sense. This is so heartbreaking! I remember she was the one who took Gingerella and the three boys to nomad to avoid Tumbela coalition. If I am right, she should be experienced to deal with nomad life. RE: Othawa Pride - BorntobeWild - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 06:59 AM)1ofCourage Wrote: Sassy can’t find hope, help or friend. She has a feline version of PTSD. She could be wary of her own cubs by now, too, especially after Gingerella’s attack and Skorro getting in on the chase. Her brain probably relives it so she is not resting either but walks around restless for the next round. Wait,, one of the symptoms is hiding. She did not hide, she approached the vehicle. Anyway, I still hold hope for her. She is 9 years old lioness, unless she is absolutely lost, a few good meals will bring her back. RE: Othawa Pride - criollo2mil - 11-01-2022 Read some exchanges from animal advocacy agency saying they were asked to evaluate at what kind of help they could provide. But her poor condition would not qualify for intervention implying she’s beyond help. Not sure how much longer she’ll be with us. RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 09:12 AM)东方琳琅STD Wrote: She is 9 years old lioness, unless she is absolutely lost, a few good meals will bring her back. She is not even 8 yrs old. RE: Othawa Pride - Mabingilane - 11-01-2022 Oh no. This is beyond heartbreaking. Almost an entire pride wiped out in less than a year. Oh Sassy our poor girl. They said she was 9 years old. She turns 8 years old in the new year. She is still relatively young! RE: Othawa Pride - Tr1x24 - 11-01-2022 Wet subs : Photo credits : nicolearanya *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author *This image is copyright of its original author
RE: Othawa Pride - BorntobeWild - 11-01-2022 (11-01-2022, 04:46 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(11-01-2022, 09:12 AM)东方琳琅STD Wrote: She is 9 years old lioness, unless she is absolutely lost, a few good meals will bring her back. Right, she is OM's littermate. |