(05-02-2023, 06:03 AM)Ngonya Wrote: anyone got any updates on xando and borro? Wish i could know more about them.

(05-02-2023, 06:44 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @Ngonya are the 2 you're talking about part of the same coalition? I've a friend who knows a lot about jaguars.

(05-02-2023, 07:28 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(05-02-2023, 06:03 AM)Ngonya Wrote: anyone got any updates on xando and borro? Wish i could know more about them.

I’m sure they parted ways by now.

(05-03-2023, 03:21 AM)Ngonya Wrote:

"These two guys are Xando and Bororo, two males we saw in 2019. They are brothers and at the time, the mother had "glued them to run" not long ago. The guides said that it wasn't so common for them to stay together for so long, but to the delight of many tourists and observers, they made a show of appearing.

Among the experts there was a hypothesis that they had stayed together for so long: Xando was a jaguar with certain limitations and walking with his brother helped him to be successful in hunting.

After the criminal fires in the Pantanal in 2020, they were no longer seen together.

Bororo was seen last year disputing territory with another male and has been seen frequently. Xando was seen last year too, but has been less seen by those who monitor the region."

(05-03-2023, 04:28 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(05-03-2023, 03:21 AM)Ngonya Wrote:

"These two guys are Xando and Bororo, two males we saw in 2019. They are brothers and at the time, the mother had "glued them to run" not long ago. The guides said that it wasn't so common for them to stay together for so long, but to the delight of many tourists and observers, they made a show of appearing.

Among the experts there was a hypothesis that they had stayed together for so long: Xando was a jaguar with certain limitations and walking with his brother helped him to be successful in hunting.

After the criminal fires in the Pantanal in 2020, they were no longer seen together.

Bororo was seen last year disputing territory with another male and has been seen frequently. Xando was seen last year too, but has been less seen by those who monitor the region."

Neither had limitations, I saw them multiple days and they got around just fine. There’s been a few “coalitions” over time but generally it’s young males. Competition is high and they probably had a better shot of being able to stay in the prey rich 3 brothers River as a pair or they could have just enjoyed each others company. Who knows for sure.

(05-03-2023, 05:55 PM)Ngonya Wrote:

(05-03-2023, 04:28 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(05-03-2023, 03:21 AM)Ngonya Wrote:

"These two guys are Xando and Bororo, two males we saw in 2019. They are brothers and at the time, the mother had "glued them to run" not long ago. The guides said that it wasn't so common for them to stay together for so long, but to the delight of many tourists and observers, they made a show of appearing.

Among the experts there was a hypothesis that they had stayed together for so long: Xando was a jaguar with certain limitations and walking with his brother helped him to be successful in hunting.

After the criminal fires in the Pantanal in 2020, they were no longer seen together.

Bororo was seen last year disputing territory with another male and has been seen frequently. Xando was seen last year too, but has been less seen by those who monitor the region."

Neither had limitations, I saw them multiple days and they got around just fine. There’s been a few “coalitions” over time but generally it’s young males. Competition is high and they probably had a better shot of being able to stay in the prey rich 3 brothers River as a pair or they could have just enjoyed each others company. Who knows for sure.

ye ik, have already read about other coalitions and its not really 'rare'. But i would believe that one of them (xando and borro) had limitations, the man who reported this had direct contact with them, unlike us.