(09-28-2019, 03:47 PM)Sully Wrote: @Roberto I'm glad we can agree on that then. I say gorillas are overrated due to the general perception that a leopard isnt even in question in relation to them when it clearly is. I think you overestimate the general public's knowledge of leopard predation. 

Very interesting account above. If you can find some expansion upon those reports that would be a good read. Without a doubt gorillas are very powerful animals, I just think a little less than most think.

(09-28-2019, 03:47 PM)Sully Wrote: @Roberto I'm glad we can agree on that then. I say gorillas are overrated due to the general perception that a leopard isnt even in question in relation to them when it clearly is. I think you overestimate the general public's knowledge of leopard predation. 

Very interesting account above. If you can find some expansion upon those reports that would be a good read. Without a doubt gorillas are very powerful animals, I just think a little less than most think.

(09-28-2019, 03:42 PM)Luipaard Wrote: @Roberto 

You're aware that this leopard population differs from others right? They're far more robust compared to other leopard subspecies/populations bar the Persian leopards in Northern Iran. They're the apex predator and prey upon red river hogs and young forest buffalo. 

i am well aware of that. Still it is not as formidable or strong as a Silverback gorilla.

Regarding silverbacks:

Quote:When the group is attacked by humans, leopards, or other gorillas, an individual silverback will protect the group, even at the cost of his own life.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla#Competition

This kind of event actually happened:

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not surprising, male gorillas can fight fiercely and inflict severe wounds.

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Sure, females and young ones may fall victim more regularly than silverbacks. But fact is that all gorilla's, including silverbacks, are prey for leopards.

this statement is just plain wrong. Having 3 or 4 documented cases in history does not mean that silverbacks are on the menu, it just means it happened 3 or 4 times. Its not the norm. All the evidence points to the direction that leopards avoid silverbacks at all costs,  they "slink away into the forest" as shown above. 


Also, do you really believe a gorilla would have the intelligence to snap a leopards neck? Pretty sure it would just charge a leopard and starts slamming with his arms as can be seen here where a silverback thinks he encounters a rival:

why not? Primates are almost as intelligent as elephants. 

Look, gorilla's are strong no doubt. They're far more stronger than us as can be seen here:

But leopards have known to have taken down wildebeests, zebra's, okapi's and even young giraffes. 

the "prey items" of one animal have nothing to do in what would happen in a face to face with between 2 animals. What is the prey of elephants and rhinos? Would they lose a fight?

What makes you think they'll back down when a silverback confronts a leopard? Not forgetting the leopards they face are physically superior to other leopards in Africa or India.

its real simple, backing down from a face to face fight when the ambush fails or when they are seen is the leopards nature.

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Quote:Officials of the Periyar Tiger Reserve (PTR) have identified the leopard that is said to have killed a bull on an abandoned tea estate at Parunthumpara in Peerumade on Sunday.

(09-20-2019, 02:16 AM)Luipaard Wrote: @Spalea Nice feats you've shown there, same for @Styx38 

Here's another amazing feat of a female. It's not only the male making spectacular kills 

From Sabi Sabi Private Game Reserve:

"This young female leopard made an impressive kill yesterday; a fully-grown male bushbuck. Too heavy to hoist, she rested in the riverbed until eventually a hyena came and stole her hard-earned meal."

(10-13-2019, 10:33 PM)Lycaon Wrote: