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RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Luipaard - 01-07-2020

@GuateGojira 

Quote:Close in body length and height, but not even near bulkiness.

Well at least the difference isn't so huge compared to a Pantanal male jaguar and a cougar:


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FYI, the jaguar is a big male, weighing 120kg.

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Pckts - 01-07-2020

(01-07-2020, 11:21 PM)Luipaard Wrote: @GuateGojira 

Quote:Close in body length and height, but not even near bulkiness.

Well at least the difference isn't so huge compared to a Pantanal male jaguar and a cougar:


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FYI, the jaguar is a big male, weighing 120kg.

I think it still would be if C. American Jaguars didn't suffer such high habitat and prey loss. The fact that there isn't even a single Jaguar left in North America, after Jefe was lost shows the sad state of affairs.
But S. America is definitely where Jaguars thrive, even the largest male Pumas in the Pantanal don't come close to the Pantanal Females.

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - GuateGojira - 01-07-2020

(01-07-2020, 11:21 PM)Luipaard Wrote: @GuateGojira 

Quote:Close in body length and height, but not even near bulkiness.

Well at least the difference isn't so huge compared to a Pantanal male jaguar and a cougar:


*This image is copyright of its original author


*This image is copyright of its original author


FYI, the jaguar is a big male, weighing 120kg.

WOW!!! That is a big diference. shocked

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Pckts - 01-08-2020

(01-07-2020, 11:30 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:
(01-07-2020, 11:21 PM)Luipaard Wrote: @GuateGojira 

Quote:Close in body length and height, but not even near bulkiness.

Well at least the difference isn't so huge compared to a Pantanal male jaguar and a cougar:


*This image is copyright of its original author


*This image is copyright of its original author


FYI, the jaguar is a big male, weighing 120kg.

WOW!!! That is a big diference. shocked

*This image is copyright of its original author


RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Luipaard - 01-08-2020

Plus there's the fact that where jaguars and cougars coexist, the jaguar tends to aim for the larger prey and the cougar the small prey in order to avoid any kind of confrontation.

However, while @Pckts has a good point regarding the large populations in Pantanal, I believe some particular cougar (and leopard) populations can rival even an average Pantanal male jaguar. The North American cougar (Canada) and those more in the South (Chile) appear very impressive and attain quite high weights.

I wonder what others their opinion is regarding this subject. I am not that well informed when it comes to jaguars and cougars but I find there sympatric behaviour very fascinating. 

I've shared this photo before, but this cougar looks very robust and easily rivals a jaguar in terms of robustness in my opinion:


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RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-08-2020

Try not to derail the thread .

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-08-2020

I only liked the photo that was shared but anyway to both @Luipaard  and @Pckts  try not to go in circles .

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-08-2020

Also @Pckts  Have you ever considered visiting the Northern Jaguar reserve ? The jaguars there look interesting.


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Source: https://www.northernjaguarproject.org/photo-gallery/jaguars/

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Pckts - 01-08-2020

(01-08-2020, 08:23 PM)Lycaon Wrote: Also @Pckts  Have you ever considered visiting the Northern Jaguar reserve ? The jaguars there look interesting.


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Source: https://www.northernjaguarproject.org/photo-gallery/jaguars/
Tbh I haven't, they dont get near the acclaim they should and US relations with Mexico aren't the best atm so traveling deep into their territory seems a bit more risky.
But maybe someday, it'd be nice not to have 30 hrs of travel time to see these big cats.

And you're right about the thread derailment, I've deleted my responses.

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-08-2020

Elvis 2018

All photos taken on the Northern Jaguar Reserve or Viviendo con Felinos ranches.



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RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Pckts - 01-08-2020



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RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-16-2020

Another norrthern jaguar . I would really like to see these jaguars.


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RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-18-2020

Guatemalan balam.


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Source and further reading: http://globalconservation.org/news/major-bi-national-jaguar-and-prey-population-study-completed/

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - GuateGojira - 01-18-2020

(01-18-2020, 07:12 PM)Lycaon Wrote: Guatemalan balam.


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Source and further reading: http://globalconservation.org/news/major-bi-national-jaguar-and-prey-population-study-completed/

Wow  Wow   Wow   Wow  - what a beauty!

RE: Mesoamerican Jaguars - Lycaon - 01-18-2020

@GuateGojira 

These jaguars might not be the biggest but have their own charm too them.  Grin