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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - BorneanTiger - 06-12-2019

A "very large" lion from the Barbary region was said to have been presented to King Frederick I of Sweden in the 18th century, who then pitted it in a fight against a bear held by butchers in Stockholm: https://books.google.com/books?id=Io5NAAAAcAAJ&q=barbary+lion&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=barbary%20lion&f=false

RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - Spalea - 06-12-2019

(06-12-2019, 01:37 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: A "very large" lion from the Barbary region was said to have been presented to King Frederick I of Sweden in the 18th century, who then pitted it in a fight against a bear held by butchers in Stockholm: https://books.google.com/books?id=Io5NAAAAcAAJ&q=barbary+lion&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=barbary%20lion&f=false

Yes the fight was rather quickly concluded (dead bear). Weird, fake (narrator's exaltation) or not fake ?

RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - BorneanTiger - 07-09-2019

The mother's name 'Khalilah' is Arabic indeed, but did they check the genes of the parents of the new cubs at Dvur Kralove's Safari Park in the Czech Republic, or is the name of the Barbary lion a marketing brand for them? These cubs are nevertheless cute: https://www.apnews.com/6f5660f5a939403fb5b60e77b3ff1d76, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-czech-lion/rare-barbary-lion-cubs-make-their-debut-at-czech-zoo-idUSKCN1U410K, https://en.annahar.com/article/994684-2-rare-barbary-lion-cubs-born-in-czech-zoo,https://www.timesnownews.com/the-buzz/photo-gallery/unaware-and-unfazed-of-being-extinct-in-the-wild-these-two-playful-barbary-lion-cubs-will-make-you-twinkle/450994 

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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - BorneanTiger - 08-04-2019

Roman mosaic from Tunisia in the 2nd century showing 2 lions devouring a boar (I presume a North African boar): https://www.flickr.com/photos/22490717@N02/7847199676


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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - epaiva - 08-14-2019

Barbary Lion skull
This Lion was the jewel of the Royal zoo in the Tower of London about 700 years ago. It is also the oldest Lion found in the UK afternoon the extintion of native wild Lions.
Workmen digging up the in-filled moat around the Tower in 1937 were surprised to find this extraordinarily well preserved skull.
Natural History Museum of London

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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - Lycaon - 09-19-2019

Barbary lion in the New York zoo


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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - BorneanTiger - 09-19-2019

How the thick belly-covering mane and muscular physique of the Barbary lion may have made it look bigger than other lions, even if this wasn't necessarily the case: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-the-size-of-the-barbary-lion?pid=91036#pid91036
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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - lionjaguar - 10-12-2019

(09-19-2019, 06:16 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: How the thick belly-covering mane and muscular physique of the Barbary lion may have made it look bigger than other lions, even if this wasn't necessarily the case: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-the-size-of-the-barbary-lion?pid=91036#pid91036

Those are barbary lions?

RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - BorneanTiger - 10-12-2019

(10-12-2019, 02:35 AM)lionjaguar Wrote:
(09-19-2019, 06:16 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote: How the thick belly-covering mane and muscular physique of the Barbary lion may have made it look bigger than other lions, even if this wasn't necessarily the case: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-the-size-of-the-barbary-lion?pid=91036#pid91036

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Those are barbary lions?

That's what the video says, but so-called "Barbary lions" tend to be African lions that are hybrids between Barbary lions and Sub-Saharan African lions, because that was the case for Moroccan lions at Rabat Zoo:





RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - BorneanTiger - 11-28-2019

If you look closely at what might be the last photo of a wild Atlas lion, taken by Michel Flandrin in 1925, on a fight from Casablanca (Morocco) to Dakar (Senegal), you may notice that it was walking on snow: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0060174
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So when there's snow, the Barbary lion's home, the Atlas Region of North Africa: http://www.pmcdz.com/2018/03/aures-mountains-algeria_18.html, 
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/278589926922778382/, https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/barbarylion/2014/11/06/large-carnivores-of-north-africa/

(Red deer in the Atlas region) 
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(Aurès Mountains in Algeria, part of the Atlas Range)
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(Atlas lion, bear and leopard)
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looks more like a montane habitat with Amur tigers: https://news.mongabay.com/2013/05/snowy-tigers-and-giant-owls-conservation-against-the-odds-in-russias-far-east/ 

(Siberian tiger walking on snow in the region of the Sikhote-Alin Mountains)
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than a typical savannah with lions today: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lion-king-notch-and-his-famous-5-sons 

(Caesar the Masai lion in Kenya)
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Otherwise, the Atlas Region would look something like this; credit: Ingo Mehling

(Without snow, Tizi N'Tichka in Morocco, near where the last known Barbary lion in the wild was shot: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3616087/)
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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - Lycaon - 11-28-2019

Zoo Berlin 1935 Atlas lion.


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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - Lycaon - 12-30-2019

Zoo Dresden Atlas lion


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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - Lycaon - 12-31-2019

Different angle of a well known photo.


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Source: http://www.ansichtskarten-center.de/tiere-zoologische-gaerten/raubkatzen-862340/loewen/loewe-2153468?VIEW_INDEX=4

RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - LazarBeam110 - 01-19-2020

A young lion 1895

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RE: Barbary or Atlas lions - Hello - 01-27-2020

(09-19-2019, 05:28 PM)Lycaon Wrote: Barbary lion in the New York zoo


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Reminds me of this guy

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