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RE: Animal Legends and Lore - peter - 11-27-2016
POLAR
Fursan Syed, as you most probably know, used enormous big black letters to get his message across. I asked him to adjust. Same for you, if you please. It's not a forum rule, but I want all members to interact in the same way. You use capitals and extra black to start a post or paragraph, not to fill one. Some readers might think you're warning them for a tsunami. Ok?
The thread, by the way, is a good one. People got to know about the old way.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Polar - 11-27-2016
@peter,
Alright, will do. Ever since I have been participating in online forums, I've always taken the habit of bolding my posts simply to differ the style of my posts from others.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - peter - 11-27-2016
There's no need for capitals and bolding, as quality will set you apart. You're a good poster.
There is, by the way, a debate about a number of posts in this thread. As the author, you should have a say. Brotherbear is the mod responsible. Cooperation is the key word. My advice to contact him in order to develop a strategy to manage the thread.
With 'the old way', I'm referring to the way people close to the natural world interacted with animals a few centuries ago. In some parts of the world, the old way still is the rule. In the west, they called it superstition. Superstition, as you know, was replaced by something else. It resulted in total destruction. In order to return to more understanding, we need to know more about 'the old way'. There is 'Dersu, the Trapper', but American Indians had similar ideas. If you focus on them, the thread will develop into a good one.
The thread about children raised by animals is not very different. Although Sir John Hewett took an interest in them in northern India a century ago, wolf children were seen as a result of superstition or plain neglect. The world of today has few myths left. A good thing in many respects, but it also resulted in an attitude often seen in those who don't care about anything. This needs to be addressed, as it can only result in total destruction sooner or later. The thread you started could make a difference.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Vinay - 11-27-2016
Who closed my thread ??? :
http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-jaguar-and-leopard-are-same?
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Polar - 11-27-2016
@
Opening threads and trying to prove that two completely different species are (genetically speaking) the same, regardless of if you have evidence or not, isn't a good way to go about things.
Final truth: jaguars and leopards are extremely different. Adaptations.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - brotherbear - 11-27-2016
Vinay - polar - the topic here is Animal Legends and Lore.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - brotherbear - 12-10-2016
Gurahl ( werebear ).
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RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Tshokwane - 12-10-2016
Awesome. That would be one of the Polar Gurahls, the tribe of the Ice Stalkers.
In the lore of the book, the Gurahl are divided in 4 tribes.
Forest Walkers: Bear Kinfolk among the Forest Walkers consist mainly of black bears with a smattering of other bear species,
including the spectacled bears of South America.
Ice Stalkers: Most bear Kinfolk are polar bears (with the occasional grizzly bear).
Mountain Guardians: Grizzlys, maybe some black bear and Polars.
River Keepers: Black or brown bear stock but also the sloth bear of India, the
Himalayan or moon bear, the Malayan sun bear, and
South America’s spectacled bear.
This might be nerdy as hell, but I love it
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - brotherbear - 12-10-2016
I have a lot of nerdy likes as well. I grew up loving comic books. I was 12 years old when Stan Lee and Jack Kerby began their new line of Marvel Comics. I used to walk two miles ( one way ) at least twice a week picking up soda bottles and putting them into a burlap sack, to sell at Pete's Bait & Tackle Shop for three cents each to buy comics with. I had all of the Marvel originals; The F.F., The Hulk, Ant-Man, The Avengers, and so on. That was in 1961; magical years for me. I read other comic book brands too.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Bronco - 12-18-2016
The Incredible Story of an Elephant Who Derailed a Train to Defend His Herd
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http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/story-elephant-who-stood-train.html#14820554094641&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Pckts - 12-18-2016
(12-10-2016, 10:58 PM)brotherbear Wrote: I have a lot of nerdy likes as well. I grew up loving comic books. I was 12 years old when Stan Lee and Jack Kerby began their new line of Marvel Comics. I used to walk two miles ( one way ) at least twice a week picking up soda bottles and putting them into a burlap sack, to sell at Pete's Bait & Tackle Shop for three cents each to buy comics with. I had all of the Marvel originals; The F.F., The Hulk, Ant-Man, The Avengers, and so on. That was in 1961; magical years for me. I read other comic book brands too.Did you keep any?
I threw all mine away and was never able to keep them in good condition, a major regret for me.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - brotherbear - 12-18-2016
Answer to post #41... No. They would be worth a fortune now. I doubt I missed a Marvel comic from 1961 thru 1966 when I went into the military. No, my Dad would take them to work to share with "the guys". He told me something interesting; during WW2, the American troops in Europe sometimes got a comic book with their C-rations. It was proved that comic books were good for maral... an escape for just a little while.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - brotherbear - 01-05-2018
From the book, Brown Bears by Melissa Gish - The Bear Warrior.
Long ago, Hrolf Kraki was king of Denmark. In a quest for power, the devious Queen Skuld of Norway ordered her army to invade Denmark so that she could seize Hrolf's throne. Hrolf had many warriors, but the bravest was Bodvar Bjarki.
The night before the battle with Queen Skuld's army, Hrolf's warriors gathered to plan their defense of the kingdom. They talked late into the night, preparing for the attack. But Bodvar, as if carried by an unseen hand, drifted away to his lodge and fell into a deep sleep.
The next morning, Queen Skuld's army charged Hrolf's fortress. Hrolf's warriors fought courageously, but they were no match for Queen Skuld's men. Hrolf wondered where Bodvar could be. No one could find him.
Then, just as it seemed that Queen Skuld's army would claim victory, an enormous brown bear, roaring like a thunderstorm, charged into the battlefield. Hrolf's men watched as the bear, with paws as broad as a man's chest and claws as long as a man's hand, tore into Queen Skuld's front line, ripping her soldiers to pieces. It soon seemed that Hrolf's men would win the day.
Meanwhile, some of Hrolf's men continued looking for Bodvar. They finally found him asleep in his lodge. They shouted to wake him, but Bodvar was not easily roused. "Bodvar!" the men continued to shout, shaking the sleeping warrior. "We need you!"
On the battlefield, the enormous bear-warrior swept through Queen Skuld's army with the power of a tornado. With teeth gnashing and claws ripping, the bear crushed every man he touched. Blades broke in half against his chest and blows glanced off his back. Queen Skuld's army struggled to defeat the mighty bear.
And then, as suddenly as he had appeared, the bear-warrior vanished.
Back in Bodvar's lodge, the warrior awoke. "What is it?" Bodvar asked, his head pounding. "I was dreaming..."
"The battle rages," Bodvar's comrades explained, "and we need you."
"I was dreaming that I was a bear - that I fought as a bear!"
It was true. As Bodvar had slept, his bear-spirit was awake and battling Queen Skuld's army with more ferocity than Bodvar would have been able to muster as a mere human. But in waking him, Bodvar's comrades hads broken the spell, and Bodvar's bear-spirit evaporated like a dream.
Without the mighty bear-warrior, Hrolf's men were again no match for Queen Skuld's army, and soon the tide turned in her favor. Her men poured over Hrolf's fortress and destroyed his army. Queen Skuld took the crown of Denmark from Hrolf's sorrowful head.
As for Bodvar, the bear-warrior would return to fight another day - but that is another story.
About the above story: Perhaps no other animal has inspired legends of strength and valor as much as the brown bear, which appears in traditional tales of virtually every culture in the Northern Hemisphere. One of the world's oldest written stories, composed sometime between the 8th and 11th centuries, is that of the Danish warrior Bodvar Bjarki ( Bawth-var bee-Yar-kee ), known in Germanic folklore as Beowulf.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - Tshokwane - 01-05-2018
(01-05-2018, 08:46 PM)brotherbear Wrote: Perhaps no other animal has inspired legends of strength and valor as much as the brown bear, which appears in traditional tales of virtually every culture in the Northern Hemisphere.
One of the world's oldest written stories, composed sometime between the 8th and 11th centuries, is that of the Danish warrior Bodvar Bjarki ( Bawth-var bee-Yar-kee ), known in Germanic folklore as Beowulf.
I recall reading something that said that sometimes, when telling tales or stories, or talking about a god, when people talked about a wolf, or the classic "big bad wolf" they were instead referring to a bear.
I don't remember the exact reason why they didn't or couldn't explicitely speak about the bear, but I thought it was interesting.
RE: Animal Legends and Lore - brotherbear - 01-05-2018
Well, not sure about that. But, a great many heroes and kings were named from the word bear ( in their various languages ) all over Europe - before his "kingship" was replaced with the lion by the Church ( from 1000 AD to 1200 Ad ). Beowulf means "Bee Hunter" which was a name for the bear. Also, King Arthur was called "The Bear King." In later years, we find King Richard "The Lion Hearted" after the lion is appointed as "King of Beasts."
In old history before the years 1200 ( or so ) the most common symbols for a warrior were the bear and the wild boar. In later times, most commonly the lion and the eagle. Of course, there were also dragons and other similar "creatures."