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RE: Plains Camp males - Duco Ndona - 09-17-2023
I don't recall male lions protecting den sites ever being a thing. Its probably more that they somewhat followed Gingerella to its general location before she could give them the slip.
RE: Plains Camp males - Cath2020 - 09-17-2023
(09-17-2023, 06:54 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I don't recall male lions protecting den sites ever being a thing. Its probably more that they somewhat followed Gingerella to its general location before she could give them the slip.
These are what the guides say Duco Ndona, so I'm just referencing what they indicated; however, judging by their behavior, they are indeed protecting or guarding the den site. Just because you don't recall lions protecting den sites as 'a thing' doesn't mean it's never happened. Time will tell if these cubs make it as their sires cannot protect them 24/7, however, as they are busy males with other prides to oversee and territories to patrol.
RE: Plains Camp males - Tr1x24 - 09-17-2023
They are just patroling, and they where prob near den site.
Males do not specifically protect den sites, but as den site is usually in core of their territory, they indirectly do.
RE: Plains Camp males - Cath2020 - 09-17-2023
Males don't usually have to protect the den sites as the females do a good job of stashing their cubs pretty secretively....however, it seems that nothing evades these males for long in their own territories, so they were able to find the site eventually. The lioness relies on more of the protection she gets from being in the appropriate territory, plus her skills at choosing a decent site. It's good that they have not acted to kill the cubs, realizing they are the sires.
RE: Plains Camp males - Mapokser - 09-17-2023
There's a report of Rollercoaster males protecting the den site of thetheir cubs, spending a lot of time there.
I don't see why it can't happen.
RE: Plains Camp males - Duco Ndona - 09-17-2023
Typically lionesses do everything in their power to prevent anyone to find them. Including their own pride members.
Its also not something the pride male lions would be interesting in or actively search for. Lions are much more nomadic than wild dogs or hyenas are. So densites are not the social hub for them like they are for those species.
Its just one of those behavoural rules not to be around denning lionesses. So any report of them hanging around casually at a densite needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
These reports are most likely just cases of lions accidentally stumbling on the den and perhaps hanging around a bit to spend time with the lioness there or out of curiousity.
RE: Plains Camp males - BigLion39 - 09-18-2023
I've actually seen lionesses (in videos) being very violent and sketchy to the actual fathers of the cubs at the den sites so I'd say its probably coincidence and just along their territorial patrol route which is indirectly a good thing for the mama and cubs. Maybe some lions are more interested when they come across den sites and maybe sniff around and hang for longer periods of time than other lions. Probably the exception tho, not the rule.
I might say the 2 PC Boys might see Scorro Jr as not a threat as he seems to be not always in great shape. They might think he's not worth the trouble to get rid of. Not a good sign for Jr.
RE: Plains Camp males - Mapokser - 09-22-2023
Can someone verify this? I got this in a private group, text originally in spanish but I don't know spanish very well so I'm translating it
with a translator:
"Sighting yesterday morning. This is the bigger maned PCM at Singita. We were able to track him, but he seemed quite upset, perhaps an altercation during the night, a guess by the guide/tracking team. His left eye area appeared to be a bit injured. But it was hard to see with all the bushes around him. He didn't seem relaxed at all, so we let him rest for the day. This photo is very hard to see, but trust me, he is the bigger maned PCM."
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It's probably nothing as I don't think there's any rival lion around there, but curious if the text is legit.
RE: Plains Camp males - Tylermartin! - 09-22-2023
(09-22-2023, 02:03 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Can someone verify this? I got this in a private group, text originally in spanish but I don't know spanish very well so I'm translating it
with a translator:
"Sighting yesterday morning. This is the bigger maned PCM at Singita. We were able to track him, but he seemed quite upset, perhaps an altercation during the night, a guess by the guide/tracking team. His left eye area appeared to be a bit injured. But it was hard to see with all the bushes around him. He didn't seem relaxed at all, so we let him rest for the day. This photo is very hard to see, but trust me, he is the bigger maned PCM."
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It's probably nothing as I don't think there's any rival lion around there, but curious if the text is legit.
Probably got it from his brother
RE: Plains Camp males - Mapokser - 09-22-2023
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There's a video of his brother calling him but there'a no reply, his brother was with the Mangheni pride. They are separate right now.
But I agree it's probably a slap he got from his brother before they split.
RE: Plains Camp males - criollo2mil - 09-22-2023
(09-22-2023, 02:03 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Can someone verify this? I got this in a private group, text originally in spanish but I don't know spanish very well so I'm translating it
with a translator:
"Sighting yesterday morning. This is the bigger maned PCM at Singita. We were able to track him, but he seemed quite upset, perhaps an altercation during the night, a guess by the guide/tracking team. His left eye area appeared to be a bit injured. But it was hard to see with all the bushes around him. He didn't seem relaxed at all, so we let him rest for the day. This photo is very hard to see, but trust me, he is the bigger maned PCM."
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It's probably nothing as I don't think there's any rival lion around there, but curious if the text is legit.
We asked a guide and he said he suspect it came from the lionesses whom are edgy now that they have cubs and he likely got too close to den for comfort.
In the message he intimated that it’s also suspected that Lady Ximungwe has had her cubs l. He said it’s still unverified but cubs were indeed heard in the vicinity
RE: Plains Camp males - Duco Ndona - 09-22-2023
So much for the idea of Male lions standing guard at the densite
RE: Plains Camp males - Hairy tummy - 09-26-2023
RE: Plains Camp males - 1999gc8 - 10-01-2023
A short clip of one of the PC Males who had killed a buffalo by himself the day before.
RE: Plains Camp males - Mapokser - 10-02-2023
By Klaus Engel, 1/2 PCM and his cub from the Ximhungwe pride:
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