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RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BA0701 - 11-03-2024

(11-03-2024, 10:08 PM)sunless Wrote:
(11-03-2024, 09:18 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(11-03-2024, 09:05 PM)Friarfan619 Wrote: Does it look like 1 of the nomads has a BRB submitted??

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That is Oloimina chasing 1 Molibany Boys, Orpadan (Oloshipa) also did gave chase to the Molibany Boys, while Lorkulup is near a lioness that have cubs.
Thank you, for that, very helpful to understand exactly what is happening!


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - sunless - 11-03-2024

BRB and Rongai Pride Update:

Oloshipa: Here Oloshipa after chasing away 3 nomadic males from their territory. Apparently, it could be the young Molibany Boys who were in the Survey Area which is not far from Rongai, although it is information yet to be confirmed.
Oloimina:


3/5 Sub Adult Males (Olubi, Kishindo, Dubo Mtoto): Apparently the young Rongai children were trying to hunt a buffalo, so they cornered it, but immediately two of them stopped showing interest and one of them even got up and left the place.
3/5 Sub Adult Males (Olonkera, Kishindo, Olubi): Here is another shot of the hunt but this time it is Olonkera who jumps on the back of the buffalo.
Kidonge'oe:


Lorkulup & Oloshipa: Lorkulup and Oloshipa feeding on a buffalo today, would this be the same one that the young Rongai were trying to hunt this morning, or would they have hunted it on their own?
Oloimina & Rongai Pride: Drama within the Rongai pride territory this morning. After Oloshipa chased the three young nomads, apparently, they ran into some of the Rongai subs who were hunting, they did not back down and made one of the young people adopt a submissive position and suddenly Oloimina appears on the scene. Accidentally chasing one of the Rongai subs but then returning to where the younger sub is with what appears to be one of the three Molibany Boys. Interesting scenes.
Here is another shot of the brief confrontation between Oloimina with his son vs the boy Molibany. Apparently they just made the boy put himself in a submissive position without doing him any kind of harm. On the other hand, the Rongai child surprises me, since he is the youngest of all, but his attitude was something to highlight on this occasion since he did not retreat or run, although he was with Oloimina, he still stood up without taking his eyes off over the intruder.






* If some of you are wondering about the names of the sub adult males it is a proposed name for them. *
Credits, All of the Transcripts and Information from lionsite01LION LOVERS and The Mapogo Lions.


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BA0701 - 11-03-2024

(11-03-2024, 10:38 PM)sunless Wrote:
BRB and Rongai Pride Update:

Oloshipa: Here Oloshipa after chasing away 3 nomadic males from their territory. Apparently, it could be the young Molibany Boys who were in the Survey Area which is not far from Rongai, although it is information yet to be confirmed.
Oloimina:


3/5 Sub Adult Males (Olubi, Kishindo, Dubo Mtoto): Apparently the young Rongai children were trying to hunt a buffalo, so they cornered it, but immediately two of them stopped showing interest and one of them even got up and left the place.
3/5 Sub Adult Males (Olonkera, Kishindo, Olubi): Here is another shot of the hunt but this time it is Olonkera who jumps on the back of the buffalo.
Kidonge'oe:


Lorkulup & Oloshipa: Lorkulup and Oloshipa feeding on a buffalo today, would this be the same one that the young Rongai were trying to hunt this morning, or would they have hunted it on their own?
Oloimina & Rongai Pride: Drama within the Rongai pride territory this morning. After Oloshipa chased the three young nomads, apparently, they ran into some of the Rongai subs who were hunting, they did not back down and made one of the young people adopt a submissive position and suddenly Oloimina appears on the scene. Accidentally chasing one of the Rongai subs but then returning to where the younger sub is with what appears to be one of the three Molibany Boys. Interesting scenes.
Here is another shot of the brief confrontation between Oloimina with his son vs the boy Molibany. Apparently they just made the boy put himself in a submissive position without doing him any kind of harm. On the other hand, the Rongai child surprises me, since he is the youngest of all, but his attitude was something to highlight on this occasion since he did not retreat or run, although he was with Oloimina, he still stood up without taking his eyes off over the intruder.






* If some of you are wondering about the names of the sub adult males it is a proposed name for them. *
Credits, All of the Transcripts and Information from lionsite01LION LOVERS and The Mapogo Lions.

I love it when someone asks for context, and instead gets the full story. Fantastic post, thank you!


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - KM600 - 11-03-2024

(11-03-2024, 10:38 PM)sunless Wrote:
BRB and Rongai Pride Update:

Oloshipa: Here Oloshipa after chasing away 3 nomadic males from their territory. Apparently, it could be the young Molibany Boys who were in the Survey Area which is not far from Rongai, although it is information yet to be confirmed.
Oloimina:


3/5 Sub Adult Males (Olubi, Kishindo, Dubo Mtoto): Apparently the young Rongai children were trying to hunt a buffalo, so they cornered it, but immediately two of them stopped showing interest and one of them even got up and left the place.
3/5 Sub Adult Males (Olonkera, Kishindo, Olubi): Here is another shot of the hunt but this time it is Olonkera who jumps on the back of the buffalo.
Kidonge'oe:


Lorkulup & Oloshipa: Lorkulup and Oloshipa feeding on a buffalo today, would this be the same one that the young Rongai were trying to hunt this morning, or would they have hunted it on their own?
Oloimina & Rongai Pride: Drama within the Rongai pride territory this morning. After Oloshipa chased the three young nomads, apparently, they ran into some of the Rongai subs who were hunting, they did not back down and made one of the young people adopt a submissive position and suddenly Oloimina appears on the scene. Accidentally chasing one of the Rongai subs but then returning to where the younger sub is with what appears to be one of the three Molibany Boys. Interesting scenes.
Here is another shot of the brief confrontation between Oloimina with his son vs the boy Molibany. Apparently they just made the boy put himself in a submissive position without doing him any kind of harm. On the other hand, the Rongai child surprises me, since he is the youngest of all, but his attitude was something to highlight on this occasion since he did not retreat or run, although he was with Oloimina, he still stood up without taking his eyes off over the intruder.






* If some of you are wondering about the names of the sub adult males it is a proposed name for them. *
Credits, All of the Transcripts and Information from lionsite01LION LOVERS and The Mapogo Lions.

I don’t think that’s their names, but instead Kidong’oe, Olonkera, Ololtapata, Orongai, Lepiyayoi as per @Tirasontira. That sounds more like names given as a lot of Masai Mara names given begin with the letter O. 

I fully agree on the point about how impressive it was for the Rongai boy to stand his ground too, I have no doubt it would have went a lil different if he had seen the Molibany boy by himself but very impressive nonetheless. It’s not like Oloimina was with him the entire time either, and yet he didn’t back down, that’s the type of character these young males will need when they leave the pride. 

It seems that Rongai boys are doing quite a bit of moving around and in numbers too, just yesterday all 5 boys were seen with some of the subadult lionesses. I think it’d be great for their experiences with these nomads going further, especially if they could give a lil beating on some of them as a group, strengthen that already tight bond and their fighting experience as a whole.


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Friarfan619 - 11-04-2024

(11-03-2024, 10:10 PM)BA0701 Wrote: @Friarfan619, if you don't mind me asking, how do you post your embedded Instagram links? I have noticed for some time, they often appear malformed, and when people reply to you, it results in their responses being malformed as well. The way Instagram links should be embedded is:

[insta]<your link goes here>[/insta]

Example:



As you can see, the "target=" stuff that we see in your post does not appear, though I posted the exact same video, and if you respond to this post, it will appear normally.

By the way, the link I used to embed this video, was literally copied from within your post, there just seems to be a bunch of extra stuff there as well.


I'm using samsung internet browser i see no difference


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BA0701 - 11-04-2024

(11-04-2024, 02:08 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(11-03-2024, 10:10 PM)BA0701 Wrote: @Friarfan619, if you don't mind me asking, how do you post your embedded Instagram links? I have noticed for some time, they often appear malformed, and when people reply to you, it results in their responses being malformed as well. The way Instagram links should be embedded is:

[insta]<your link goes here>[/insta]

Example:



As you can see, the "target=" stuff that we see in your post does not appear, though I posted the exact same video, and if you respond to this post, it will appear normally.

By the way, the link I used to embed this video, was literally copied from within your post, there just seems to be a bunch of extra stuff there as well.


I'm using samsung internet browser i see no difference

Perhaps it has something to do with that browser, not sure, but this time your post appears correctly. When you look at your OP of this video, does it not look like this to you?


*This image is copyright of its original author


Another funny thing is, when I look at that original post, as if to edit it, this is what I see, a bunch of additional text that should not be there:


*This image is copyright of its original author


But on this response by you, the properly appearing post, it looks like this:


*This image is copyright of its original author


So something is adding all that extra code, perhaps it is that browser, but that would be very strange.


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - KM600 - 11-05-2024

Bringing some bad news back to this thread unfortunately, one of the Topi boys was injured by herders and was carrying machete attack wounds on his ‘leg and flanks.’ The tip of his tail has also been cut too. This happened around the Marsh area. His brothers are fine but all 6 were in the same area last night and must have attacked a cow or something, so there’s a chance they’ll also be caught if they don’t move out the area. I don’t have the energy to share my anger about this situation to be completely honest, this won’t ever change for the time being. Wishing the best for this young and upcoming coalition to stay safe.




RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - KM600 - 11-05-2024

Rongai boys




RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - T_Ferguson - 11-05-2024

(11-05-2024, 06:02 PM)KM600 Wrote: Bringing some bad news back to this thread unfortunately, one of the Topi boys was injured by herders and was carrying machete attack wounds on his ‘leg and flanks.’ The tip of his tail has also been cut too. This happened around the Marsh area. His brothers are fine but all 6 were in the same area last night and must have attacked a cow or something, so there’s a chance they’ll also be caught if they don’t move out the area. I don’t have the energy to share my anger about this situation to be completely honest, this won’t ever change for the time being. Wishing the best for this young and upcoming coalition to stay safe.


It's getting harder and harder to follow the Mara, and I am getting to the point where I might have to give up.  At the current rate the Mara is going to be a cattle only grounds inside of a decade.


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Mapokser - 11-05-2024

I don't even consider Mara to be an area of fully wild free roaming lions anymore.


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - BA0701 - 11-05-2024

(11-05-2024, 06:02 PM)KM600 Wrote: Bringing some bad news back to this thread unfortunately, one of the Topi boys was injured by herders and was carrying machete attack wounds on his ‘leg and flanks.’ The tip of his tail has also been cut too. This happened around the Marsh area. His brothers are fine but all 6 were in the same area last night and must have attacked a cow or something, so there’s a chance they’ll also be caught if they don’t move out the area. I don’t have the energy to share my anger about this situation to be completely honest, this won’t ever change for the time being. Wishing the best for this young and upcoming coalition to stay safe.


I have nothing more I can say about my thoughts for what is being permitted to take place in the Mara, until the people being enriched by the very presence of these cats actually begin to stand up for them, I must withdraw my interactions. It is those people whose actions, or perhaps it is better to say inaction, I find the most disgusting in all of this.


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Robot00 - 11-06-2024

(11-05-2024, 06:02 PM)KM600 Wrote: one of the Topi boys 


Sons of salas?

(11-05-2024, 06:04 PM)KM600 Wrote: Rongai boys


Sons of BRB?


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - KM600 - 11-06-2024

(11-06-2024, 03:51 AM)Robot00 Wrote:
(11-05-2024, 06:02 PM)KM600 Wrote: one of the Topi boys 


Sons of salas?

(11-05-2024, 06:04 PM)KM600 Wrote: Rongai boys


Sons of BRB?

Yes to both


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - Robot00 - 11-06-2024

(11-06-2024, 04:01 AM)KM600 Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 03:51 AM)Robot00 Wrote:
(11-05-2024, 06:02 PM)KM600 Wrote: one of the Topi boys 


Sons of salas?

(11-05-2024, 06:04 PM)KM600 Wrote: Rongai boys


Sons of BRB?

Yes to both
I counted four young male subs and Olonkera from the rongai pride. They may be a problem for nearby coalitions when they dispersed. Olonkera looks quite big. He just needs his little brothers to have home comfort for another year then they'll be ready for nomad hood


RE: Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara - KM600 - 11-06-2024

(11-06-2024, 05:11 AM)Robot00 Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 04:01 AM)KM600 Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 03:51 AM)Robot00 Wrote:
(11-05-2024, 06:02 PM)KM600 Wrote: one of the Topi boys 


Sons of salas?

(11-05-2024, 06:04 PM)KM600 Wrote: Rongai boys


Sons of BRB?

Yes to both
I counted four young male subs and Olonkera from the rongai pride. They may be a problem for nearby coalitions when they dispersed. Olonkera looks quite big. He just needs his little brothers to have home comfort for another year then they'll be ready for nomad hood

Ye there's 5 Rongai boys, with Olonkera being the oldest hence his size, although he looks decently sized next to his fathers, so he must be a good size for his age, we'll see how his brothers compare to him once they age. In terms of nearby coalitions, they will be a problem, presuming they all stick together, but unfortunately for them the other big coalitions such as 6/7 Topi boys and 6 Fig Tree boys are all older and should become pride males before them. Depending on where they go once being ousted, competition especially between these bigger coalitions could become extremely fierce. Topi boys seem to be going West for now, which if permanent, moves them far away from Rongai boys.