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RE: Tiger Directory - GuateGojira - 12-12-2014
"Tons" of failed radiocollar deaths, Pckts???? That is gross exaggeration. The few news reports that you post only mention the death of few animals but never mention the entire sample used in the studies. It is OBVIOUS that these reports only try to create havoc, while they hide the true results of the studies and the fact that normally over 80% of the sampled animals are alive and well. Accidents happens - yes, bad methods produced bad studies - yes, but nothing is perfect here, and I have saw also enough videos of photographers and tourist disturbing tigers in the wild for the sake of a good picture, to say that this attacks against scientists is a huge hypocrite attitude.
Apollo, I am very disappointing from your point of view. You have been also convinced by the photographers and "naturalists" with no more education than that of the use of a camera or the basic knowledge of an animal. This people is against the collars, not for the sake of the tigers, but because they look "ugly" in the pictures. They hypocrite statements are based in "feelings" and not in facts.
You have decided to believe in the reports of death tigers by the collars and to ignore the other reports that state that those tiger don't died for that.
Other thing, READ my words, I say "Every process can be safe", not that "IS safe". Before to comment, read the correct words. In this case, the snares are out of question, specially by the fact the the entire discussion is focused in the tigers captured in India-Nepal-Bangladesh, not in Russia. Peter is the only one that have touched this point, I have focused in the Indian subcontinent, and I have stated several times, that the method to capture tigers is more safe than that of Russia, but apparently both of you also choose to "forget" this.
This attitude against the scientific methods, and the support of the opinions of the photographers, only because we want people in the forum, is a hit to the very soul of this place. Since when Science most give place to the "feelings" of any person with no professional base??? This is disturbing, as I clearly see personal interests here. I simple don't care what the photographers think, I put the truth, but now you are practically saying that all those "old" process were evil and useless. I clearly stated that the method is good, the problem is the people that use it, however your answer was the snares???
If you really think what you are saying, I invite you to drop all your scientific books and base your ideas only in the internet, this will be not the first time that I saw this. What a shame and an waste of time. I am full of indignation by how the opinion of experts is dismissed so easily, just to get more people in the forum. [img]images/smilies/angry.gif[/img]
RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-12-2014
I said Tons of deaths from TRANQ's, whether being used on Radio Collars, for examples on how to treat rhinos, relocations, etc.
Which of course, is absolutely true, I also posted a huge list which you have already seen.
This should be coninued on the thread its intended for.
RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-17-2014
It appears that a Battle of the Titans is brewing in Bandipur
Praveen SiddannavarDecember 14 at 5:16pm · Edited ·Big Cats of Bandipur – My intentions to visit Bandipur recently was with a clear mission of spotting new Tigers, and believe me I never even bothered to neither track nor go after the most frequently sighted and famous massive tiger none other than our own “Prince”. I knew that this trip will need a lot of patience, persistence and of course luck, having said all this I was also mentally prepared that in all probabilities I may come back seeing nothing. To make things worse the low depression at Chennai made the weather even worse, it was cloudy; it rained, drizzled and light as expected was extremely low even before we entered the park.
It was a morning drive with misty conditions, low light but we kept driving; keeping an eye on the smallest clue that came our way. We saw pugs marks of a male tiger and also a female and this was a good sign to keep our moral and confidence high. It was just about 7am we were about to reach famous water hole and suddenly three of us that included a guest shared the same name Praveen, our star naturalist Basavanna and of course myself whispered tiger tiger tiger…
Friends believe me he was massive (should be easily weighing 250 kgs+), seemed to be in his prime with nice winter coat and was seen scent marking his territory, good thing was he didn’t shy away immediately, he posed for a while and that was good enough for me to make few images, but at a high ISO of 1600 due to low light. I can’t really express the joy of seeing this new chap, I clicked few shots and then he disappeared into the bushes, we did wait for a while but he didn’t show up. I strongly believe that he can be serious threat to Prince as we spotted him scent marking in a territory that currently belongs to Prince. I will now refer to this tiger as Basavanna Katte Male; and I have strong reason behind this reference. Stay tuned for more!— at Bandipur Tiger Reserve, Karnataka State, India.
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Very interesting that a seasoned veteran of Ranth, Bandipur and other tiger sanctuaries specifically mentions the massive size of this tiger. Bandipur, Raja and this male must be quite the specimens to behold.
RE: Tiger Directory - Apollo - 12-18-2014
RE: Tiger Directory - GuateGojira - 12-18-2014
Apollo, sincerely, I think this is a dirty move (from you or other?) to attack the new alliance that Pckts and I have made in the Asian lion topic.
I will not going to touch this topic, and I am not going to loose my time with it anymore, at the suggestion of the other moderators.
What I have said, has been said and I will not going to change any of my words.
Continue with the topic.
RE: Tiger Directory - peter - 12-18-2014
I posted a recent (2014) article on tigers, radio-collars and researchers in India in the tiger extinction thread. It's lengthy, but interesting.
My proposal is to read the article and then again. Than try to get to a summary. If everything is done, a debate can follow. But not on the tiger extinction thread, if you please. Thanks.
RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-19-2014
I removed the images in respect to Vijays wishes. My apologies.
RE: Tiger Directory - Apollo - 12-19-2014
T42 aka Fateh
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RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-19-2014
(12-19-2014, 02:11 AM)'Apollo' Wrote: T42 aka FatehI know its just the angle, but good lord.
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He looks so massive here...
RE: Tiger Directory - Pantherinae - 12-19-2014
I think I''m going to back Rathambore in The year to come and fateh/T42 is my number one priority!
RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-19-2014
T42, T28 and T24 are all tigers on which I would love to see.
Now T72 may even be at the top of the list. Ranth is quickly becoming my dream place since sightings are all but guarenteed.
RE: Tiger Directory - Pantherinae - 12-20-2014
'Pckts dateline='' Wrote: T42, T28 and T24 are all tigers on which I would love to see.Yeah i was thinking about khana or Kaziranga, but last time I just loved it there and this is The place i wanna be, aswell as it's less expensive! and as You said it's almost guarenteed sighting's! And by far The greatest nature in India IMO! Sure You don't wanna join me in november or desember next year? If You have The time?
Now T72 may even be at the top of the list. Ranth is quickly becoming my dream place since sightings are all but guarenteed.
RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-21-2014
Im going to Thailand instead, I got a good oppurtunity and I took advantage of it. I will make it to india at some point, just will have to find time and let my funds reemburse before I do. May take a couple of years, but I will make it there for sure.
RE: Tiger Directory - Apollo - 12-25-2014
Merry Christmas to everyone
Tiger named Deewani Ram from Corbett. This tiger by mistake killed and ate a forest guard named Deewani Ram, so the tiger was named after the him. Quite an aggressive animal at times charges at vehicles, can get scary.
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This massive male is called Big Boss, from Nagarhole NP. It was said to be a very big male.
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New male tiger of Moharli range - Tadoba TR. He is named as Bajrang male aka BajiRao. He is been mating with Sonam tigress.
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Tiger from Birjani Corbett
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The original Mahaman female. She is the sister of late Chorbhera and Jurjura females.
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Big male from Kanha
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RE: Tiger Directory - Pckts - 12-28-2014
Nice images, I doubt the description though.
There is no "mistake" when a tiger kills and eats.
They've evolved millions of years killing and eating specific prey, they know how to attack each type of prey, etc.
They know what a human looks like so its obvioulsy done for a reason.