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RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - AlexE - 06-05-2018

Male lion kill adult hyena


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RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - AlexE - 06-05-2018

Youtube do not show all moments of wild animals. Only selected videos.


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Spalea - 06-05-2018

(06-04-2018, 10:17 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(04-18-2018, 09:24 PM)Pckts Wrote: Rahul Mangam
Today morning safari... Tigress choti madhu.. Killed wild dog in Junona zone.. #TADOBA..





This video should make us all rethink claims of any Dhole pack being able to Kill an adult healthy Tiger or even a reason for them to try.

I posted this video a while back, you can see the account by Rahul there.
Choti Madhud killed the wild dog and was chasing the rest off.

@Spalea @Wolverine


@Pckts: I'm fully aware now of the impossibility to see an adult tiger to be seriously threatened by a pack of dholes. I remember only to have read during my childhood some books of the 1960s inside which it was related that some adult tigers and lions could be killed by respectively pack of dholes and pack of African wild dogs. Perhaps that was written from a period where wild canids were much more abundant than nowaday... And some furious fights were imagined between 50 wild canids against a big cat. This were just fantasies and I am sure about that now ! No problem Wink !


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Pckts - 06-05-2018

(06-05-2018, 01:31 AM)Spalea Wrote:
(06-04-2018, 10:17 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(04-18-2018, 09:24 PM)Pckts Wrote: Rahul Mangam
Today morning safari... Tigress choti madhu.. Killed wild dog in Junona zone.. #TADOBA..





This video should make us all rethink claims of any Dhole pack being able to Kill an adult healthy Tiger or even a reason for them to try.

I posted this video a while back, you can see the account by Rahul there.
Choti Madhud killed the wild dog and was chasing the rest off.

@Spalea @Wolverine


@Pckts: I'm fully aware now of the impossibility to see an adult tiger to be seriously threatened by a pack of dholes. I remember only to have read during my childhood some books of the 1960s inside which it was related that some adult tigers and lions could be killed by respectively pack of dholes and pack of African wild dogs. Perhaps that was written from a period where wild canids were much more abundant than nowaday... And some furious fights were imagined between 50 wild canids against a big cat. This were just fantasies and I am sure about that now ! No problem Wink !
I was just tagging you in regards to the uncertainty of it being a Dhole or something else, I saw that you weren't sure so I knew it would help clarify it for you guys.


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - leopard - 06-05-2018

The master of stealth... Try to locate the leopard


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RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Pantherinae - 06-05-2018

(05-30-2018, 05:31 PM)AlexE Wrote:






Why leopards often kills wild dogs, baboons, videos are missing from youtube? I'm more than sure what leopards kills hyenas more often than people think.

That's rare, leopards and hyenas interact so often one on one and the outcome is dependent on individuals. They kill cubs pretty often I'm sure, but adults are a rarity... hyenas are also 2-3 times the size of AW and baboons. It's very different!


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Spalea - 06-05-2018

@leopard :

About #335: below the tiger at the first quarter up from the bottom of the picture, I presume ?


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - AlexE - 06-06-2018

(06-05-2018, 05:25 PM)Pantherinae Wrote:
(05-30-2018, 05:31 PM)AlexE Wrote:






Why leopards often kills wild dogs, baboons, videos are missing from youtube? I'm more than sure what leopards kills hyenas more often than people think.

That's rare, leopards and hyenas interact so often one on one and the outcome is dependent on individuals. They kill cubs pretty often I'm sure, but adults are a rarity... hyenas are also 2-3 times the size of AW and baboons. It's very different!

1 hyena on video is not a lone hyena. Lonely hyenas and wolves are way more cowardly and vulnerable then wolf/hyena from pack.


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Pckts - 06-06-2018

(06-06-2018, 12:18 AM)AlexE Wrote:
(06-05-2018, 05:25 PM)Pantherinae Wrote:
(05-30-2018, 05:31 PM)AlexE Wrote:






Why leopards often kills wild dogs, baboons, videos are missing from youtube? I'm more than sure what leopards kills hyenas more often than people think.

That's rare, leopards and hyenas interact so often one on one and the outcome is dependent on individuals. They kill cubs pretty often I'm sure, but adults are a rarity... hyenas are also 2-3 times the size of AW and baboons. It's very different!

1 hyena on video is not a lone hyena. Lonely hyenas and wolves are way more cowardly and vulnerable then wolf/hyena from pack.

You're generalizing, I have seen multiple accounts of hyena being more dominant not to mention lone wolf predation attempts on very large prey. Because an animal is a pack animal, they are accustomed to attacking that way, that certainly doesn't mean they are cowardly when alone. In fact, my observations seem to show that pack or pride animals seem to be a little more reckless compared to a solitary hunter due to being able to rely on other members for support.














That being said, I'd be hard pressed to bet against a large prime male leopard vs a large prime female Hyena but I certainly don't think you can say one has a clear advantage over the other.


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Rage2277 - 06-06-2018




tigress in ranth vs leopard


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Pantherinae - 06-06-2018

(06-06-2018, 12:18 AM)AlexE Wrote:
(06-05-2018, 05:25 PM)Pantherinae Wrote:
(05-30-2018, 05:31 PM)AlexE Wrote:






Why leopards often kills wild dogs, baboons, videos are missing from youtube? I'm more than sure what leopards kills hyenas more often than people think.

That's rare, leopards and hyenas interact so often one on one and the outcome is dependent on individuals. They kill cubs pretty often I'm sure, but adults are a rarity... hyenas are also 2-3 times the size of AW and baboons. It's very different!

1 hyena on video is not a lone hyena. Lonely hyenas and wolves are way more cowardly and vulnerable then wolf/hyena from pack.

Hyenas usually split up in groups or alone. They can migrate massive distances in search of food. Wolves yes can behave cowardly against other carnivores hyenas too.. and I think wolves are more vulnerable alone than a spotted hyena, but they are tough as well many videos shows wolverines chasing even packs of wolves, but in Finland lone wolves have killed them.. some times the leopards win and sometimes the hyena...:)


RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - Pckts - 06-06-2018

Chaitanya Rawat
When they see Eye to Eye......


Indian Striped Hyena vs Leopard

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RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - leopard - 06-06-2018

Not the first time I see a leopard surviving such an encounter... Simply amazing.







RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - AlexE - 06-06-2018

(06-06-2018, 01:11 AM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-06-2018, 12:18 AM)AlexE Wrote:
(06-05-2018, 05:25 PM)Pantherinae Wrote:
(05-30-2018, 05:31 PM)AlexE Wrote:






Why leopards often kills wild dogs, baboons, videos are missing from youtube? I'm more than sure what leopards kills hyenas more often than people think.

That's rare, leopards and hyenas interact so often one on one and the outcome is dependent on individuals. They kill cubs pretty often I'm sure, but adults are a rarity... hyenas are also 2-3 times the size of AW and baboons. It's very different!

1 hyena on video is not a lone hyena. Lonely hyenas and wolves are way more cowardly and vulnerable then wolf/hyena from pack.

You're generalizing, I have seen multiple accounts of hyena being more dominant not to mention lone wolf predation attempts on very large prey. Because an animal is a pack animal, they are accustomed to attacking that way, that certainly doesn't mean they are cowardly when alone. In fact, my observations seem to show that pack or pride animals seem to be a little more reckless compared to a solitary hunter due to being able to rely on other members for support.














That being said, I'd be hard pressed to bet against a large prime male leopard vs a large prime female Hyena but I certainly don't think you can say one has a clear advantage over the other.

Lone hyena???








RE: Big Cat Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts - AlexE - 06-07-2018

Adult male leopard and adult hyena encouter