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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - LionKiss - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 07:37 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:(02-21-2017, 11:56 AM)LionKiss Wrote: one of the 3 Mhangeni Males is missing for quite long time obviously he did not make it?
are the remaining 2 Mhangeni Males with the 1 Talamati?
May be he is killed or got separated how Talamati male got separated from his brothers.
are you sure that the other 2 Talamati Males are alive?
people say they are somewhere south of SS but is it true? are they monitored?
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - vinodkumarn - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 07:42 PM)LionKiss Wrote:(02-21-2017, 07:37 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote:(02-21-2017, 11:56 AM)LionKiss Wrote: one of the 3 Mhangeni Males is missing for quite long time obviously he did not make it?
are the remaining 2 Mhangeni Males with the 1 Talamati?
May be he is killed or got separated how Talamati male got separated from his brothers.
are you sure that the other 2 Talamati Males are alive?
people say they are somewhere south of SS but is it true? are they monitored?
They are alive.
Recently I saw their pics in KNP, I think in this thread or in Facebook.
Once they are in KNP difficult to monitor.
As you said they may have been to south SS. (Nomads keep moving)
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Gamiz - 02-22-2017
From Latest Sightings
Just look at how proud these 2 Male Lions look just standing there on the H7 this evening.
Tinged by Garry, David and Dawie
Junior and his friend
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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Fredymrt - 02-22-2017
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Isnt he just incredible ? This Shish male was resting in some shade after feeding on a wildebeest , walking to drink from the Xinkelengane drainage and then relocating his brothers Seen in Singita recently Tinged by @ barry - peiser Barry Peiser
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Gamiz - 02-24-2017
Our 2 New young Males on the H14 today.
Credits Rene van Der Schyff
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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Gamiz - 02-24-2017
"Anger is one letter short of danger"...A very agitated looking male Lion with a slightly wet mane staring intently!
#MaleLion #KrugerPerk #Nature #Wildlife #Aggro #IfLooksCouldKill
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Skybed?
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Gamiz - 02-28-2017
Buddy on road near Orpen gate 2/20/17
Credits to Spojjo
Junior's friend
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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Gamiz - 02-28-2017
Credits to Michael Fleetwood
After I saw the picture of Junior and his coalition partner walking together, a question came to me that I'd never thought of before. Hopefully one of the presenters will be able to answer on drive or if they see this, maybe give us some feedback.
Junior's a perfect example of a single young male joining up with another young male, but how does that process go? What I mean is, is there aggression initially and how do they communicate to the other they "want" to form a coalition. Because they're unrelated, I'd expect there to have been some aggression initially.
What do you think about that?
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Pckts - 02-28-2017
(02-28-2017, 04:37 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Credits to Michael Fleetwood
After I saw the picture of Junior and his coalition partner walking together, a question came to me that I'd never thought of before. Hopefully one of the presenters will be able to answer on drive or if they see this, maybe give us some feedback.
Junior's a perfect example of a single young male joining up with another young male, but how does that process go? What I mean is, is there aggression initially and how do they communicate to the other they "want" to form a coalition. Because they're unrelated, I'd expect there to have been some aggression initially.
What do you think about that?
I think lions seek companionship, if they notice another lone male they will cautiously investigate and if both show no signs of aggression, they will join. If one has a territory to defend, females to protect or is generally just a "grumpy guy" then both will have a scuffle, it just depends on the situation.
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - vinodkumarn - 02-28-2017
(02-28-2017, 05:31 AM)Pckts Wrote:(02-28-2017, 04:37 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Credits to Michael Fleetwood
After I saw the picture of Junior and his coalition partner walking together, a question came to me that I'd never thought of before. Hopefully one of the presenters will be able to answer on drive or if they see this, maybe give us some feedback.
Junior's a perfect example of a single young male joining up with another young male, but how does that process go? What I mean is, is there aggression initially and how do they communicate to the other they "want" to form a coalition. Because they're unrelated, I'd expect there to have been some aggression initially.
What do you think about that?
I think lions seek companionship, if they notice another lone male they will cautiously investigate and if both show no signs of aggression, they will join. If one has a territory to defend, females to protect or is generally just a "grumpy guy" then both will have a scuffle, it just depends on the situation.
To add to @Pckts, I remember Solo and Freddy staring at each other for some days and sharing kills and then slowly they started moving together.
In fact in this scenario, they were rivals before and had many fights... but when they lost their coalition partners.. They were forced to join the forces
RE: Jock males - Gamiz - 02-28-2017
2 beautiful Jock males near Lower Sabie ,H4-1.
Credits Neil Rosewall
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RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Tshokwane - 02-28-2017
(02-28-2017, 04:37 AM)Gamiz Wrote: What do you think about that?
I agree to what both Pckts and Vinod said.
The first instinct of a lion is to form a coalition, and that gets amplified when he's alone and so young.
So what I would expect would be something like what has been seen with the case of the Kruger male and Solo, and also to what happened with Earless and Boxer nose from the mara. In the latter's case, ther older male followed Earless at a distance, and kept following him until I guess Earless was more confident in him and they started getting along.
With young males I would expect this to be more swift, maybe with some days of akward going around each other, wanting to know the other male, but confidence and trust would develop much quicker, in my opinion.
Then to this I would say demostration of afection, like play-fight, as they are still very young and still posess some cub like characteristics, and also a lot of head butting and things alike, to strenghten the bonds.
As for the hierarchy, it's going to be sorted out fairly quickly when the time comes, be it food or women, and I would expect Junior to be the dominant one, as he's a bit older.
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Fredymrt - 03-04-2017
From: Singita Kruger National Park
wildlife report
Lions: The Lebombo Concession is well known for lion sightings and this month has been no exception. We have had over fifty recorded sightings of these large, tawny cats this month. Most of our sightings have been of the two portions of the Shish Pride.
On the 4th of January Nick and Jani were watching the larger portion of the Shish Pride as they were walking through the grasslands near Gudzani North. They crossed the river and disappeared into the bush when Jani and Nick heard the death cries of a buffalo emanating from the direction that the lions had headed. They found a way to cross the river and when they located the lions again they found that they had just killed an adult female buffalo. The clouds had been building all afternoon and as soon as they found the lions feeding on the cow, the heavens opened up and the rain poured down upon them. The guests were really excited to see the lions feeding, but the lions themselves seemed quite miserable with all the water drenching them as they were feeding. Nick and Jani did not remain with the lions for long as the rain was really pelting down.
The larger portion of the Shish Pride were seen again, on Nuthlwa Rd, in the last week of the month. They were busy feeding on a zebra that they had killed during the night. While we were watching them a herd of elephants came walking towards them. When the grey giants saw the lions they immediately started chasing the cats around. It was great viewing! The cats all managed to evade the elephants and when the pachyderms had left the area the lions slowly started returning to the carcass.
Towards the middle of the month the smaller portion of the Shish Pride were found quite close to camp. The sub-adult male white lion was with the group. We watched them for a while and later on in the afternoon the lions headed south, out of the concession towards the Sweni Bird Hide. That night we could hear male lions roaring to the south of camp and then lots of growling and more roaring. The sounds carried on for quite a while and we realised that the Southern Males had obviously come across the Shish Pride and were fighting with them. The next morning, we found the white lion on his own. He had clearly been involved in the confrontation and had injuries all over his body. He was lucky to have escaped from the larger Southern Males. He looked quite miserable and sorry for himself. We saw the smaller portion of the Shish Pride later on in the month again and the white lion was back with the group. Unfortunately, it appeared that there were two lions missing from the pride and we wondered if they had not been killed in the dispute with the big males. A day or two after that day that we found the white lion on his own we found a lone, thin female on the H6 road. She had killed a wildebeest. Sadly for her, the hyenas had been alerted to the sounds of the dying wildebeest and were gathering all around her. Soon the jackals arrived as well and eventually with the advantage of numbers on their side the scavengers drove her away and took over the carcass.
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The four Shish Males were seen on a few occasions this month. They have been moving much further west than normal and we presume that they are fighting with other males that have their territory there.
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We have not had many sightings of the Mountain pride this month. We believe that they have been moving around the hills and in some of the steep-sided valleys. At the end of the first week of January they were seen feeding on a zebra with their three cubs. A week or two later the three lionesses were seen again in the hills near Xidulu Pan. This time there was only one cub. At the end of the month the lionesses were seen in the Central area. The females were alone. We were quite concerned that they could have lost the last cub as well. However, right at the end of the month they were seen again, feeding on a wildebeest with the four Shish Males, and the cub was present and very fat!
We have only seen the Xhirombe Pride once in January and that was right at the end of the month. It made us very happy to see the Xhirombe Male as we have not seen him in a long time and we were even contemplating whether he had been killed by other males in the area (particularly when Nick found the remains of a blonde lion’s mane and skin below the Granophyre ridge in the area that we do sometimes see the Xhirombe Pride). These lions have obviously been hiding in the hills and valleys in the south of the concession (or even in Mozambique), where there are very few roads and access by vehicle is limited due to the steep cliffs and rocky areas. Since we did see the two females mating a few months ago, we were expecting them to have given birth to new cubs. However, right at the end of the month, when we saw these lions near the camp, and we were surprised to see that the females do not have swollen teats. It appears that they may have lost their cubs.
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - Fredymrt - 03-08-2017
Mhangeni boys Seen on the S1 near Nyamundwa dam Jan 2017
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Mhangeni male
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Mhangeni male Dec.2016
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Talamati boy
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Photos were taken in Dec 2016@LionKiss yes, the talamati male and the 2 Mhangeni males are together in the Nyamundwa Dam area (S1)
RE: Coalitions of Kruger National Park - LionKiss - 03-10-2017
@Fredymrt
yes, they have left SS and went south but still no signs of the other 2 Talamati Males and it is now sure that the 3rd Mhangeni Male is dead, I was wondering if the 2 Talamati males are still alive.
it is disappointing to see them disappear since they were grown enough to survive but probably the were involved in a fight with other lions.