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RE: The mighty Mapogos - Tshokwane - 10-14-2016
Video from back in the day, credits to Khimbini Wildlife Videos.
Pretty boy the one in the video.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - anand3690 - 10-14-2016
(10-14-2016, 02:16 AM)fursan syed Wrote: Nhlanguleni -vs- Makhulu Mapogo
The Reason why Makhulus lower right canine had been snapped in half
Nhlanguleni was first seen in the west around March 2005, he was found in the river mating with one of the Ottawa lionesses, close to Ottawa camp. He moved from there to feed on an elephant carcass south of Exeter that the two resident males had been on with some of the SRP previously. Soon after that our two males disappeared, one was found dead in the river and the other was reported as having left the reserve under pressure from Nhlanguleni (who at that time was unnamed). His name came from Nhlanguleni picnic spot in the Kruger, directly east of the Sands as that is where we guessed he came from. At first he was very agressive, charging the vehicles from about 100m away (we later learned that he had earlier been seen on chitwa-chitwa with a kill, reacting in a similar way). He was often on his own but started spending more time with one half of the Ottawas after the cubs were born (the other half- 2 lionesses 2 young males and a young female stayed away from him). as only a few people had seen Nhlanguleni mating with the females it was often said that he had adopted the previous males cubs - He certainly thought they were his own though. He also started to push further West, and came into frequent contact with the Sand River pride - 5 females and 8 cubs at that point. The two older females (One eye and 1+1) left the 3 younger females to look after the cubs and started to move with Nhlanguleni who by this time was relaxed with our prescence It was around this time that the testicle incident occured, the 3 lionesses and the cubs had a Kudu kill and the two older lionesses came over to join, bringing with them the male, the rest of the story you know... It was after this that the 2 lionesses and the male started being referred to as the Skorro pride as they were all looking old and battered! he never fully took over the Sand River pride, the 3 younger lionesses managed to keep away from him until the arrival of the 6 male lions from the east who would soon become known as the Mapogo in Feb 2006. The new males first came into contact with the Ottawa pride but continued to push west as the Ottwas ran across the river to escape from them. Over the next few weeks the new males slowly moved further west until one night the oldest male (Makhulu) left the others and followed the scent of Nhlanguleni all the way to the western fence, north of the river. The next morning the rangers following the tracks found the evidence (blood, scuff-marks etc) of a huge fight between the two males. The large male from the coalition was found heading east to rejoin the others, bleeding heavily from the mouth and showing many scratches from the fight, on closer inspection it was seen that his lower right canine had been snapped in half. Later on Nhlanguleni was found, limping badly and with a terrible wound on the right side of his face, the wound was deep and it seemed he had lost an eye, inside the wound was what suspiciously like a broken canine tooth lodged in the cheekbone! A few days later Nhlanguleni was seen with the Ottawa pride, the swelling around the wound had gone down a bit and we could see the eye was not damaged after all. he was seen for a few more days after this before he dissappeared. Nobody knows what exactly happened to him...
(image - Nhlanguleni)
Hi fursan syed,
What is testicle incident??
And which story are they talking about "the rest of the story you know... "
RE: The mighty Mapogos - Tshokwane - 10-14-2016
(10-14-2016, 07:59 PM)anand3690 Wrote: What is testicle incident??
And which story are they talking about "the rest of the story you know... "
The info is by one of the rangers or guides that updated that blog in which they talked about the lions.
I'm sure that by that they meant some incident that happened some time prior to that.
These are fairly old posts, so the story might be known by those who were following them at that time.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - Pckts - 10-14-2016
what a battle that must of been.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - anand3690 - 10-14-2016
(10-14-2016, 08:10 PM)Majingilane Wrote:(10-14-2016, 07:59 PM)anand3690 Wrote: What is testicle incident??
And which story are they talking about "the rest of the story you know... "
The info is by one of the rangers or guides that updated that blog in which they talked about the lions.
I'm sure that by that they meant some incident that happened some time prior to that.
These are fairly old posts, so the story might be known by those who were following them at that time.
Thanks bro... ☺?
RE: The mighty Mapogos - fursan syed - 10-15-2016
Pretty Boy Mapogo vs. 4 Selati Male Lions
(by Adam Bannister on March 6, 2012)
Stories from the western part of the Sabi Sand Game Reserve are traveling on the winds. The winds of change. It sounds like there is an epic tale unfolding. A tale that, although not currently occurring on Londolozi soil, will undoubtably have a influence on the lion dynamics closer to home.
From the sounds of it the four Southern Males have started to make their move on the three remaining Mapogo Males. Those of you familiar with the story of lion warfare, that has been unfolding since mid 2010, will be aware of the intriguing movements and encounters that have played out. Coalitions of males have been occupying every square inch of real estate in this magnificent wilderness. It appears as if the catalyst may have been a female…one of the members of the Castleton/Ximhungwe Pride has been on heat and the males from both coalitions have been drawn in; both sets of males keen to sire a litter.
A couple of nights ago they had a run in with each other. I have battled to get clarity on actual events but the outcome appears to be that one of the Mapogo Males was injured in the conflict. It is also rumoured that the Southern Males left the scene roaring deep into the night; scent marking in the middle of Mapogo territory. The Mapogo dynasty has been so dominant in this area for a very long time; but all good things eventually come to an end.
I still feel, however, that the Mapogo Males have much to offer and it may still be some time until we see their reign comes to an end. This may,however, be the start of the inevitable. The Southern Males have grown into incredible males; handsome and strong. They have been cornered into a difficult spot. To the south they have the magnificent Kruger Males, to their north they have the six Matimba Males, to the east the killer Majingilanes and to their west the three Mapogo. The weakness, if that is the right word, will be in the aging Mapogo trio.
It may well come down to a bit of a numbers game: 4 young aspiring males taking on 3 older experienced males.
This whole ordeal reminds me of the incident back in June 2011 when the Southern Males, numbering five at the time, made their move on the Majingilane Males too soon. The result was the death of one of the younger males. Who knows how costly the loss of that fifth member may prove to be in the next few weeks?
I will keep you posted as we learn more on this new development and as to how this change may impact the beloved Lions of Londolozi.
(image - Pretty Boy fighting The Southern pride males aka Selatis)
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RE: The mighty Mapogos - Tshokwane - 10-15-2016
(10-15-2016, 03:38 PM)Georgel Wrote: Hi! Why I can't see this photo?
Hi @
I don't know why some can't be seen, maybe it is that the system doesn't recognize the jpg. of certain image anymore. When I first started posting here, I only copied the url and then embedded it here.
But then it came out that little sign that you couldn't see them.
So I started to download the pics and then upload them here. But eventually, the same problem happened. So I really don't know why it happens.
Luckily, most pics can be seen.
Welcome to the forum, I hope you like it.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - Pckts - 10-15-2016
That would be real scary/amazing!
I remember having a couple of lions a few feet from us and we decided to roll up the window just in case even though they could easily jump to the roof if they wanted. I can't imagine what that'd be like but with big males and no window.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - Ngala - 10-15-2016
(10-15-2016, 11:21 PM)Georgel Wrote:(02-24-2016, 12:57 AM)LionKiss Wrote: Mr T crossing a river and joins his brothers
People familiar with the Mapogos please tell us who are the two Mapogos waiting for Mr. T (Makhulu seems to be one of them), and who is the other one left behind, on the other side of the river.
The male on the left is for sure Rasta. The other one on the right, probably Dreadlocks or Pretty Boy.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - fursan syed - 10-16-2016
Dreadlocks to the Majingilanes and Selatis
"You're lucky you never met me face to face, with me by my brothers I would have ended you."
Pc Unknown
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RE: The mighty Mapogos - fursan syed - 10-16-2016
One of the most aggresive Mapogos.Rasta on the warpath.
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RE: The mighty Mapogos - fursan syed - 10-16-2016
Western Mapogos on Warpath.
3 of the Western Mapogos (Dreadlocks, Rasta and Pretty Boy) take down an old male Lion, 3 weeks prior to this they killed his brother, after 4 days he past away.
RE: The mighty Mapogos - fursan syed - 10-16-2016
(10-16-2016, 01:13 PM)Georgel Wrote:(10-16-2016, 01:03 PM)fursan syed Wrote: Western Mapogos on Warpath.
3 of the Western Mapogos (Dreadlocks, Rasta and Pretty Boy) take down an old male Lion, 3 weeks prior to this they killed his brother, after 4 days he past away.
It seems you will make a big list of the Mapogos' victims. (Great contribution to this thread, anyway.)
Thanks for the appreciation . still we have very little amount of Mapogos warfare videos . i heard many war videos of mapogos were captured by wild earth including video of Blondie male lion death but never published .
RE: The mighty Mapogos - Gamiz - 10-16-2016
(10-15-2016, 11:15 PM)Georgel Wrote:(06-29-2016, 10:20 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Rasta or DreadlocksHi @Gamiz.
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I don't get it: are you unsure if this is Rasta or Dreadlocks or you think Rasta=Dreadlocks?
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RE: The mighty Mapogos - Ngala - 10-16-2016
(10-16-2016, 10:03 PM)Georgel Wrote:(10-16-2016, 08:57 PM)Gamiz Wrote:(10-15-2016, 11:15 PM)Georgel Wrote:(06-29-2016, 10:20 AM)Gamiz Wrote: Rasta or DreadlocksHi @Gamiz.
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I don't get it: are you unsure if this is Rasta or Dreadlocks or you think Rasta=Dreadlocks?
@Georgel, I meant Rasta=Dreadlocks xD
Well, then I hope someone will illuminate us. (In my opinion this is Rasta, but I'm not an expert in the Mapogos, so I could be wrong.)
It's been already identified in the reply #239. It's Rasta.