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RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - GhostCatP-22 - 06-27-2024
(06-26-2024, 10:02 PM)Ngonya Wrote: The darker maned young Nkuhuma male in Kruger
*This image is copyright of its original author
by @seguimosencombate
He’s got such a beautiful and unique face! Interesting how all the boys have stand out traits and the kambula boys all look extremely similar.
So the Nkuhuma boys have been trying to take over the mantimahl pride? Would they officially get a coalition name?
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Rui Ferreira - 06-27-2024
(06-27-2024, 02:19 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:Yeah it's quite easy to tell them apart, the twins we're very similar ( minus the lipscar on one of them)(06-26-2024, 10:02 PM)Ngonya Wrote: The darker maned young Nkuhuma male in Kruger
*This image is copyright of its original author
by @seguimosencombate
He’s got such a beautiful and unique face! Interesting how all the boys have stand out traits and the kambula boys all look extremely similar.
So the Nkuhuma boys have been trying to take over the mantimahl pride? Would they officially get a coalition name?
You got Ridge Nose's Son who is built like a horse and has a very dark mane
Chela's Son who turned out to be a carbon copy of Blondie
And PE's Son who.. yeah he is the other one basicly
Stange that you say the Kambulas are extremly similar, I find quite easy to tell who is who ( maybe K6 and K3 take me sometime to identify who is who )
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Cath2020 - 06-27-2024
Chela's son looks like her. The nose shape, ridges, etc. Her genes dominate, that's what struck me.
But yea, I agree that they look unique and different from one another.
RN son looks a bit more like Mohawk... but with a longer, Matimba muzzle... and not really like his mom. His orange eyes stand out, and neither of his parents had such dark eyes, certainly not the pale eyed RN. He doesn't have the marked ridges of RN either ... but Chela's son has obvious ones.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - KM600 - 06-27-2024
Chelas boy and should be Ridge Nose son to the left of him with his back turned
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Go131810 - 06-29-2024
(06-27-2024, 07:42 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: Chela's son looks like her. The nose shape, ridges, etc. Her genes dominate, that's what struck me.Hi has there only been two young Nukhuma male lions seen? Not 3 anymore?
But yea, I agree that they look unique and different from one another.
RN son looks a bit more like Mohawk... but with a longer, Matimba muzzle... and not really like his mom. His orange eyes stand out, and neither of his parents had such dark eyes, certainly not the pale eyed RN. He doesn't have the marked ridges of RN either ... but Chela's son has obvious ones.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - GhostCatP-22 - 06-29-2024
(06-29-2024, 07:29 AM)Go131810 Wrote:(06-27-2024, 07:42 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: Chela's son looks like her. The nose shape, ridges, etc. Her genes dominate, that's what struck me.Hi has there only been two young Nukhuma male lions seen? Not 3 anymore?
But yea, I agree that they look unique and different from one another.
RN son looks a bit more like Mohawk... but with a longer, Matimba muzzle... and not really like his mom. His orange eyes stand out, and neither of his parents had such dark eyes, certainly not the pale eyed RN. He doesn't have the marked ridges of RN either ... but Chela's son has obvious ones.
There has been a recent sighting of possibly him, it was in one of our forums and someone was asking for a positive ID…so maybe and hopefully?
The Nkuhuma boys are in a relatively unknown and far area so maybr Mohawk just got separated in a similar way but instead of staying he chose to come back home.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Go131810 - 06-29-2024
(06-27-2024, 05:03 AM)Rui Ferreira Wrote:Yes I agree the Kambula male lions are similar. Three of them have the same mother . The Nukhuma male lions I am not sure if their mothers were all Matimba daughters and Birminghams daughters. Also a reason why the Nukhuma male lions may be so different if one of the Matimba daughters was daughter of the oldest Matimba he was a big male lion not born in the Birmingham pride. It is why the Nukhuma male lions maybe so different.(06-27-2024, 02:19 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:Yeah it's quite easy to tell them apart, the twins we're very similar ( minus the lipscar on one of them)(06-26-2024, 10:02 PM)Ngonya Wrote: The darker maned young Nkuhuma male in Kruger
*This image is copyright of its original author
by @seguimosencombate
He’s got such a beautiful and unique face! Interesting how all the boys have stand out traits and the kambula boys all look extremely similar.
So the Nkuhuma boys have been trying to take over the mantimahl pride? Would they officially get a coalition name?
Yes the Kambula male lions look very similar. I think that is, because the fathers are Nehena, and or Tinyo. I think maybe even most are Nehena sons, and their mothers were also sisters and one lioness is mother to 3 of the 4 Kambula male lions in Sabi Sands. The Nukhuma lions their mothers were Matimba and Birmingham lioness daughters and there were 3 Avoca male lions.
You got Ridge Nose's Son who is built like a horse and has a very dark mane
Chela's Son who turned out to be a carbon copy of Blondie
And PE's Son who.. yeah he is the other one basicly
Stange that you say the Kambulas are extremly similar, I find quite easy to tell who is who ( maybe K6 and K3 take me sometime to identify who is who )
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Ttimemarti - 06-29-2024
Yeah all the nkuhuma males mothers are matimba daughters except for the youngest one that is still with the pride and the kambula males it’ll get easier to tell them apart k4 and k5 are easy just k3 and k6 don’t have that one think that sticks out yet
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - KM600 - 06-29-2024
(06-29-2024, 08:26 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:(06-29-2024, 07:29 AM)Go131810 Wrote:(06-27-2024, 07:42 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: Chela's son looks like her. The nose shape, ridges, etc. Her genes dominate, that's what struck me.Hi has there only been two young Nukhuma male lions seen? Not 3 anymore?
But yea, I agree that they look unique and different from one another.
RN son looks a bit more like Mohawk... but with a longer, Matimba muzzle... and not really like his mom. His orange eyes stand out, and neither of his parents had such dark eyes, certainly not the pale eyed RN. He doesn't have the marked ridges of RN either ... but Chela's son has obvious ones.
There has been a recent sighting of possibly him, it was in one of our forums and someone was asking for a positive ID…so maybe and hopefully?
The Nkuhuma boys are in a relatively unknown and far area so maybr Mohawk just got separated in a similar way but instead of staying he chose to come back home.
It was confirmed to be the missing twin. Sighting was from 10 days ago.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Go131810 - 06-29-2024
(06-29-2024, 12:18 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Yeah all the nkuhuma males mothers are matimba daughters except for the youngest one that is still with the pride and the kambula males it’ll get easier to tell them apart k4 and k5 are easy just k3 and k6 don’t have that one think that sticks out yet
Hi yes seeing pictures and video; is easy to know the Kambula male lions. Yes there is always two that seem be a lot similar. I am still not sure who is who. I do know 3 have the same mom, and K4 is growing strong and is starting to look like Nehena. He does look like Nehena. There is also a Kambula male lion I am familiar with but I am not sure if he is K6 or another Kambula male lion.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - T_Ferguson - 06-30-2024
It's sad to see him like this, but he's alive. I guess that's definitely something. He looks good too.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - KM600 - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 07:11 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: It's sad to see him like this, but he's alive. I guess that's definitely something. He looks good too.
Looks very similar to the smaller BDM when his mane like this. Good to see he’s still kicking.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - T_Ferguson - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 07:19 PM)KM600 Wrote:(06-30-2024, 07:11 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: It's sad to see him like this, but he's alive. I guess that's definitely something. He looks good too.
Looks very similar to the smaller BDM when his mane like this. Good to see he’s still kicking.
I read somewhere that they were all basically together a couple of days ago on a kill. Smaller BDM, S. Avoca, and the Talamati's.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - Tr1x24 - 07-01-2024
(06-30-2024, 07:57 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: Smaller BDM, S. Avoca, and the Talamati's.
That was N.Avoca.
RE: Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage - GhostCatP-22 - 07-04-2024
Hey friends, I was reading on a video comment discussion that about a month ago k5 kambula and Khanya talamati had a scuffle?