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RE: Avoca male lions - Ngonya - 11-26-2023

(11-26-2023, 10:06 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I think it's safe to say at this point that the other Southern Avoca is gone right?  Sad that we'll never really know what happened to him.
I think most people already thought that he was gone in the same month that he disappeared. But yes, he is certainly dead

impressive, this last Southern Avoca looks very well!


RE: Avoca male lions - Duco Ndona - 11-27-2023

The only alternative theory is that he somehow got in a big fight with his brother and decided to split up. Disappearing into Kruger as a nomad. 
Which is very unlikely.

No idea what did do him in though. Could be anything from a hunting accident to a fight with a rival coalition.


RE: Avoca male lions - KM600 - 11-27-2023

Worst thing is majority of us had still seen them as the strongest duo in Sabi Sands just a few months ago. We’ll never know how the bigger Southern Avoca passed but I just hope it was him refusing to back down to the Nkhulus or any other males as opposed to a hunting injury or a rapid decline in health meaning he went out on his own terms. They will always have my respect for standing up against the Nkhulus for as long as they did, same with the Gijimas.


RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 11-28-2023

Young Avoca and Guernsey







RE: Avoca male lions - Ngonya - 11-30-2023

last Southern Avoca on H1/2 early this morning, by Dicky Rutzen

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RE: Avoca male lions - KM600 - 12-10-2023

There u go, would have edited for u but I’m not a mod. ‘Three Imbali males chased Mohawk from a buffalo he killed after they had first ate together’ - 21st November 




RE: Avoca male lions - Friarfan619 - 12-10-2023

Thanks lol I tried like 20 times


RE: Avoca male lions - KM600 - 12-10-2023

(12-10-2023, 01:38 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote: Thanks lol I tried like 20 times

All good even @BA0701 can vouch I went thru a similar stage trying to send things into threads. Just make sure u delete the above messages if u can.


RE: Avoca male lions - BA0701 - 12-10-2023

(11-27-2023, 01:14 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: The only alternative theory is that he somehow got in a big fight with his brother and decided to split up. Disappearing into Kruger as a nomad. 
Which is very unlikely.

No idea what did do him in though. Could be anything from a hunting accident to a fight with a rival coalition.

Southern Avocas, Plains Camp Males, Mbiris, are a few of a very short list of lion coalitions that I could not fathom ever being separated for an extended period of time, except in death. They are all the tightest of tight, some of the closest creatures outside of humans and swans I have seen. While literally anything is always possible, in those instances I'd have to see it before I would ever believe it.


RE: Avoca male lions - BA0701 - 12-10-2023

(12-10-2023, 01:46 AM)KM600 Wrote:
(12-10-2023, 01:38 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote: Thanks lol I tried like 20 times

All good even @BA0701 can vouch I went thru a similar stage trying to send things into threads. Just make sure u delete the above messages if u can.

Thank you, @KM600, for assisting @Friarfan619!


RE: Avoca male lions - Mwk85 - 12-10-2023

Mohawk and sons looking well fed after eating a buffalo 




RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 12-12-2023







RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 12-12-2023

Southern Avoca looking great.







RE: Avoca male lions - KM600 - 12-13-2023

(12-12-2023, 11:01 PM)afortich Wrote: Southern Avoca looking great.





Not sure about great, sure he has no new injuries but he’s quite slim. He was last spotted in Northern Londolozi but I heard he was heading towards Singita.


RE: Avoca male lions - afortich - 12-13-2023

Mohawk relaxing with the whole gang.